The "LOLCANADA" thread...again
So what's new?
I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet...i'd be shocked if they lost the election now.
Just shows just how incompetent Conservatives are.
My personal opinion is drill baby drill or dig dig baby dig . That is why ill vote Conservative
We know.
Look nobody is ever going to convince you that canada should lift a single finger to do anything to mitigate it's climate impact. We know. But you don't have to lie about the things we ARE doing. You don't have to pretend a bill that doesn't ban pipelines ban pipelines etc.
I'm not clear why you think that the liberals are at fault for oil price fluctuations over several months affecting their business decisions. This would only be positive information to make informed decisions...
These decisions are not based on current price fluctuations over months. Teck knows this and any stakeholder does as well, these facilities have 50+ year life cycles, they aren't making a decision to invest billions of dollars over price fluctuations. There is a reason no mega project has been built in Alberta since the liberals have been in power. Teck was paying millions a day to "consult" with local indigenous groups while the decision was being made for years I'm sure they got sick of lighting money on fire while the liberals kicked the can down the road.
Please enlighten me and tell me how I lack the comprehension on whom I am voting for. Your saying I should trust a party that lies to me and believe a new leader who was all for the carbon tax and all fossil fuels and all of a sudden doesn't believe what he has been saying and writing in his own book
Well i think it's pretty obvious that both parties tend to lie because they run on attacking each other and making false promises rather than what can actually be accomplished. That, sadly, is the essence of politics and a valid critique of all involved. I do know which campaign is blatantly guiltier of that though.... and i guess that's the heart of our disagreement.
You know you don't have to deny the truth of climate change or disregard the importance of environmental stewardship. Hell even the Teck CEO advocated for the carbon tax in his parting remarks in that article you cited. What part of Carney's writings on baking in environmental stewardship into economics do you think is so horrible? He's already made it clear that he understands Canada's current situation and the need to act rapidly with our near-term needs and opportunities at the forefront.
These decisions are not based on current price fluctuations over months. Teck knows this and any stakeholder does as well, these facilities have 50+ year life cycles, they aren't making a decision to invest billions of dollars over price fluctuations. There is a reason no mega project has been built in Alberta since the liberals have been in power. Teck was paying millions a day to "consult" with local indigenous groups while the decision was being made for years I'm sure they got sick of light
Ah unfamiliar with the legal framework, political structures, and regulatory processes of your own country Shifty! I know your homework tonight.
Jason Kenney dumping on Maple MAGA and the shifty "SECURE THE BORDER" wing of canadian far right never gets old.
Well i think it's pretty obvious that both parties tend to lie because they run on attacking each other and making false promises rather than what can actually be accomplished. That, sadly, is the essence of politics and a valid critique of all involved. I do know which campaign is blatantly guiltier of that though.... and i guess that's the heart of our disagreement.
You know you don't have to deny the truth of climate change or disregard the importance of environmental stewardship. Hell even t
Who is denying Climate Change is real ?
You are arguing against policies that attempt to address it and suggesting that you dont trust Carney because he cares about it...
No I argue about policies that impede Canadian Resource development and do nothing to solve the overall climate change problem
The current government would have never met the Paris Climate Goals which are a joke in itself . When you have the two largest contributors to Climate Change and emissions not required to do anything till 2060 and 2070 and are building coal fired power plants on a weekly basis Canada is the least of your worries . As well Canada is their dealer supplying all that coal from the USA and here . The current government pledged to end all coal exports by 2031 I do believe but in the last 9 years has increased them steadily every year.
Lets look at my new province that carbon taxes Natural Gas which Europe considers clean energy. Their mandate is to eliminate all Natural gas furnaces , fireplaces and stoves by 2030 I do believe and go electric. Even with the new damn coming online they will not have enough power and they do not carbon tax hydro as they say its clean which is total BS as they import 30% of the power from Alberta
Let me repeat an old analogy I have used. Were all in a sinking boat and Canada is there with a shot glass bailing out water while China and India are scooping buckets of water and dumping it into the boat. The boats gonna sink unless you get China and India to start bailing out the boat as well
Make America Great (Depression) Again
No I argue about policies that impede Canadian Resource development and do nothing to solve the overall climate change problem
The current government would have never met the Paris Climate Goals which are a joke in itself . When you have the two largest contributors to Climate Change and emissions not required to do anything till 2060 and 2070 and are building coal fired power plants on a weekly basis Canada is the least of your worries . As well Canada is their dealer supplying all that coal fr
What province imports 30% of power from Alberta? No electrical grid comes near that. In fact all the neighbours are net exporters except for the Yukon which is on an isolated grid.
There's a lot of belief and not much substance here. I have no problem with the government trying to steer the country towards cleaner industry where future opportunities obviously lie.
I do want to say that we still agree on some fundamental underlying issues; being that we need to better take advantage of current opportunities and onboard more large scale projects.
One thing I find curious is Saskberta's continual push to the fringe right that is shooting themselves in the foot. There's an amazing opportunity for deal making with the rest of the country right now. You have a unifying national moment with a clear economic mandate that plays right into your desires and opportunities, why the hell wouldn't you take advantage of it?
What province imports 30% of power from Alberta? No electrical grid comes near that. In fact all the neighbours are net exporters except for the Yukon which is on an isolated grid.
There's a lot of belief and not much substance here. I have no problem with the government trying to steer the country towards cleaner industry where future opportunities obviously lie.
I do want to say that we still agree on some fundamental underlying issues; being that we need to better take advantage of current opp
Sorry typo 3% that is a huge difference
It's alright, I think your point stands that BC has had a huge swing in import/export numbers and apparently imported 25% of power last year (after typically being an exporter). Drought and increasing demands being the reasons given.
Which is atypical so its hard to draw conclusions. But yes, production needs to ramp up if those kind of policies are going to make sense. Pushing electrification obviously makes sense in the long term but hitting consumers with these kind of policies when production isn't there is definitely bad politics.
https://natural-resources.canada.ca/scie...
Highly recommend NRCan's annual 10 year report for anyone who wants to understand the current situation re: major resource projects FYI
