The "LOLCANADA" thread...again
So what's new?
I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet...i'd be shocked if they lost the election now.
Just shows just how incompetent Conservatives are.
is this hyper level of media control and restriction like....even a politically good idea? Set aside how bad it is for democracy that your guy is acting this way. Is it even a good campaign strategy? Pissing off the media doesn't seem like it.
I have said many times Trudeau actually was honest when he said housing is not a federal responsibility. Any leaders plan on affordable housing will not work . As a home builder it’s all about the costs and lack of trades
there are many successful examples of government housing initiatives globally and historically. Gov needs to get involved on the supply side to attack those costs one way or another. Carney so far has provided the closest to what I want. I dont think he goes far enough tbh but its still more than PP has offered. Gov needs to actually be building **** or at least be a huge, curve flattening customer for a couple of years.
I have said many times Trudeau actually was honest when he said housing is not a federal responsibility. Any leaders plan on affordable housing will not work . As a home builder it’s all about the costs and lack of trades
I just wish YOU were honest and stated the other half of the sentence where he explicitly said the federal government can and must help, as he described his governments plans.
Stop.
Lying.
I just wish YOU were honest and stated the other half of the sentence where he explicitly said the federal government can and must help, as he described his governments plans.
Stop.
Lying.
Its not a lie he did say that I looked for the full clip and could not find it . You may say I haven't written the full sentence but I am defending that quip
If you think the federal government either party will solve the affordable housing crisis your nuts . Oh wait you thought the carbon tax would bring white Christmases and less forest fires .
Yes they can contribute to the problem with immigration levels
The main reasons for the lack of affordable housing are labor and material costs in most areas . Not sure how a federal government will control those .
Reality is some folks that want a 2500 sq ft house may have to settle for a unit in a 8 plex .
Yes Justin has the housing accelerator fund or whatever its called that hasn't built one home yet and will see how affordable those units are for the contractors that took advantage of it. As well it only applied to large scale projects
Cities and Provinces also control zoning and permits
Its not a lie he did say that I looked for the full clip and could not find it . You may say I haven't written the full sentence but I am defending that quip
STOP LYING.
You KNOW you are lying. I've repeatedly told you what the full clip says. Here I'll do it for you once again.
"I'll be blunt as well — housing isn't a primary federal responsibility. It's not something that we have direct carriage of," he said.
"But it is something that we can and must help with."
When you ignore the "but" part, it gives a completely different tone. If you say it by itself it implies he is shirking a duty to act when in reality he was saying this in the context of saying the federal government MUST act. It's 100% opposite implication.
Stop.
Lying.
And like Trudeau is ****ing gone, why you have to take these years old clips of a now gone PM and LIE about them is beyond me.
Yes Justin has the housing accelerator fund or whatever its called that hasn't built one home yet
STOP LYING.
I don't know why you do this. We already explained this to you. And yet you still lie.
The fund doesn't directly build homes. It gives money to municipalities. Who also don't directly build homes, but they do zone and approve homes.
So for instance here is a good example from Calgary.

Stop.
Lying.
STOP LYING.
I don't know why you do this. We already explained this to you. And yet you still lie.
The fund doesn't directly build homes. It gives money to municipalities. Who also don't directly build homes, but they do zone and approve homes.
So for instance here is a good example from Calgary.

Ok please tell me how these are affordable?
STOP LYING.
You just said "hasn't built one home yet". When thoroughly shown to be a LIE you immediately shift the goal posts and talk about affordability. But if you read the report you'll see the numbers in different market and non-market categories:
Through actioning these initiatives and implementing Home is Here: Calgary’s Housing Strategy, The City is exceeding our HAF housing target.
94% complete Multi-Unit Housing Near Transit (10,019 of 10,627)
74% complete Missing Middle Units (11,888 of 15,959)
99% complete Multi-Unit units (4094 of 4,098) and
25% complete Non-market units (186 of 740)
As a result of The City’s significant progress toward these goals, select targets are being revised upward. New targets in these categories are:
Missing middle: 16,156 units
Multi-Unit: 4,707 units
Total housing supply: 42,667 units
GREAT JOB TRUDEAU!!!!
STOP LYING.
You just said "hasn't built one home yet". When thoroughly shown to be a LIE you immediately shift the goal posts and talk about affordability. But if you read the report you'll see the numbers in different market and non-market categories:
GREAT JOB TRUDEAU!!!!
Are you that stupid that you think all these houses were built thanks to the housing accelerator fund? These were planned and probably in the ground long before. The city just claimed that money for hitting goals which I guarantee you they would of hit anyways
Still waiting for you to show me how affordable these houses are ?
PLEASE STOP LYING LOZEN.
Stop lying.
Stop lying.
This was just explained to you. The HAF doesn't directly build homes - it creates an incentive for municipalities do approve lots of housing. Which is exactly what calgary did, building a tonne of housing and getting appropriately rewarded by the HAF. It encourages good municipal behavior, essentially. It's structured differently, but encouraging changing municipal behaviour is ALSO part of poilievre's plan. When you present this misinformation that HAF hasn't build a single home it completely hides the basic way these are supposed to work.
I've given you the number of non-market rate units, the number of multi-unit housing near transit, etc. Affordable is always going to be a question of relatively affordable, those are relatively more affordable than say the single family dwellings. But it is an entirely separate issue from the LIE you were promoting.
There isn't really a way of making housing more affordable other than flooding the zone with supply to reset the equilibrium. Cheap money and subsidizing the demand side with home saving plans etc (not bad but not fixes) mostly add demand pressure.
Contrary to whining about liberal overreach, the government has been pretty reticent to force the issues on these kinds of things (similar to their refusal to force through large resource projects by overriding legal obligations and stakeholder objections). Canadians (mostly boomers) have so much wealth tied up in real estate that we know a housing correction is going to hurt. But we also know how badly we ****ing need it.
Again, I would ask to review both platforms. Carney has clearly laid out the better approach so far. The Cons are not so far off but I really hope they offer more on this issue.
There isn't really a way of making housing more affordable other than flooding the zone with supply to reset the equilibrium. Cheap money and subsidizing the demand side with home saving plans etc (not bad but not fixes) mostly add demand pressure.
Contrary to whining about liberal overreach, the government has been pretty reticent to force the issues on these kinds of things (similar to their refusal to force through large resource projects by overriding legal obligations and stakeholder object
Your bolded is correct . Yeah Carney wants to get into modular and prefab which of course was a company he served on the board of .
I personally do not believe any candidate on their affordable housing plans . I am surprised healthcare has not been a major topic yet with 5.5 million CDN's without a family doctor
Your bolded is correct . Yeah Carney wants to get into modular and prefab which of course was a company he served on the board of .
I personally do not believe any candidate on their affordable housing plans . I am surprised healthcare has not been a major topic yet with 5.5 million CDN's without a family doctor
Yeah, there's been a little bit of very obvious movement on healthcare in the general breakdown of provincial barriers. Things like making licensing more national etc. That stuff is such low hanging fruit.
My wife is a doc and we have moved around a bit so I've have some strong feelings about this haha. The amount of jurisdictional bureaucracy and organizational inefficiency drives me crazy. I can't pretend I'm an expert here but I just don't understand why we don't just have 1 system in a country with universal healthcare. Something like the NHS makes so much sense so that at least everyone is one one system that can communicate internally.
I think he makes a very accurate criticism of how Pierre is running the campaign since Carney became the Liberal candidate
Broken YouTube LinkI think he makes a very accurate criticism of how Pierre is running the campaign since Carney became the Liberal candidate
I don't really understand what he gains by leaning into the fringe populism and culture war stuff. It alienates some moderates while that right wing base is always going to vote for you.
I guess it creates strong feelings in people which increases voter turnout. They do tend to be simple, dumb arguments that appeal to peoples base instincts.
I don't really understand what he gains by leaning into the fringe populism and culture war stuff. It alienates some moderates while that right wing base is always going to vote for you.
I guess it creates strong feelings in people which increases voter turnout. They do tend to be simple, dumb arguments that appeal to peoples base instincts.
I really can't argue with anything you say here. It just baffles me
Yeah, there's been a little bit of very obvious movement on healthcare in the general breakdown of provincial barriers. Things like making licensing more national etc. That stuff is such low hanging fruit.
My wife is a doc and we have moved around a bit so I've have some strong feelings about this haha. The amount of jurisdictional bureaucracy and organizational inefficiency drives me crazy. I can't pretend I'm an expert here but I just don't understand why we don't just have 1 system in a countr
Sadly I have had to deal with the system with my brother passing and now my sister in the hospital first ICU now a regular ward .
I think the system can do a good job once your in the system but nowadays getting an ambulance is a struggle with all the overdoses . My brother has to wait 4 hours for an ambulance to show up in Edmonton . Emergency Rooms resemble the show The Pitt
The folks in the system are overworked no question . I also thought we all talk about immigration yet when you look at were my brother and sister work there is a heavy Filipino and African contingent of nurses and health care workers that do a great job . What surprised me is now put men and women in the same room and the rooms that are meant for 4 max now have 5 in them .
When I moved to BC I thought the healthcare system would be better but it sucks compared to Alberta from what I have seen and interacted with
Has your wife watched The Pitt?