In other news

In other news

In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there are important, interesting or just plain weird things happening out there and a group of people can find these better than one.

I thought I would test with a thread for linking general news articles about "other news" and discussion. Perhaps it goes into the abyss that is page 2 and beyond, but it is worth a try.

Some guidelines:
- Try to find the "clean link", so that links to the news site directly and not a social media site. Avoid "amp-links" (google).
- Write some cliff notes on what it is about, especially if it is a video.
- It's not an excuse to make outlandish claims via proxy or link extremist content.
- If it's an editorial or opinion piece, it is polite to mark it as such.
- Note the language if it is not in English.
- There is no demand that such things be posted here, if you think a piece merits its own thread, then make one.

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12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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by lozen k

George Floyd was scum and you could argue his drug usage contributed to his death . The question is if the officer had not pinned his neck that long would he have died. If it contributed to his death than the officer is guilty

Though the fact this case has nothing to do with racism and more with a poorly trained or rogue officer. We have no clue if he would have treated a white person the same given the situation

I still remember a house that had a BLM sign up, an Indigenous lives matter sign up

There are certainly questions if the officers would have treated him the same if he wasn't black which makes the case at least adjacent to racism, but its probably directly related

The real issue is implying that maybe he deserved to die for being a petty criminal or denying facts around him being murdered. All the attempts to distort reality are firmly based in racism. The movement to get the murdering officer pardoned is firmly based in racism.


by BGnight k

The more you try your hardest to label me a racist nazi the more I know I'm winning.

I don't give af about G.F. and I don't have to. I was watching police brutality videos since 2009 and no one cared until that day. It was a scripted "movement" that came just after everyone is pent up with lockdown brain during an election year. There was nothing organic about the "outrage" that ensued. BLM, Soros, antifa and other goons all pushed it to sow discontent and chaos.
The mind boggling hypocrisy of o

I should have read further: this post and theory is dumber than Luciom's and Playbig's combined.


by BGnight k

The more you try your hardest to label me a racist nazi the more I know I'm winning.

Winning what?

Also, I didn't label you anything. I think your general view is that you don't give **** about a police officer abusing someone so long as (i) you think the person being abused was a bad person; and (ii) you think the person being abused played some non-trivial role in the encounter occurring.

That's how a lot of people in this country feel. Call it whatever you want.


by Luciom k

the Renaissance orgies

do go on


by rickroll k

do go on

plenty of tv shows on the Borgias


by Luciom k

People who feared for their lives to be jurors in that case were excluded, and ofc the only reason to fear for your life is you entertain the possibility of not convincting Chauvin.

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MINNEAPOLIS — One prospective juror’s voice quivered as she told attorneys during jury selection that she feared for her family’s safety if chosen for the panel that will decide the fate of a white former police officer charged with killing George Floyd. When the judge excused her, the woman exhaled in relief.

Mafia does that , riots less so .


by Montrealcorp k

Mafia does that , riots less so .

well the judge thought the fear was credible enough to excuse a potential juror for that


by Luciom k

well the judge thought the fear was credible enough to excuse a potential juror for that

The judge also thought he empaneled a jury that was capable of fairly evaluating the evidence.

What exactly is your point? It seems that you agree that Chauvin committed a serious crime.


by Rococo k

The judge also thought he could and did empanel a jury that was capable of fairly evaluating the evidence.

What exactly is your point? It seems that you agree that Chauvin committed a serious crime.

my point is I accept your description of things being done by the book in terms of empaneling juries in ultra-famous cases, but I think the jury system is a disgrace for those cases because of the exposure to narratives about events people inevitably get before they become jurors.

as I said earlier, mine is a general critic of jury empanelment in cases that got massive mediatico exposure and/or where the accused is an exceptionally famous person


I would think that most of us could go into a case knowing something about it but carefully listen during the trial and render an impartial verdict based on the facts presented.

I know that's impossible for some of us here to believe that but it's true.


Only Luciom could be so intoxicated by the taste of jack boots that he cites the corruption of the all powerful Borgias as an inspiration.


by jalfrezi k

Only Luciom could be so intoxicated by the taste of jack boots that he cites the corruption of the all powerful Borgias as an inspiration.

i cite how they found pleasure in their daily life as inspiration


by AquaSwing k

I would think that most of us could go into a case knowing something about it but carefully listen during the trial and render an impartial verdict based on the facts presented.

I know that's impossible for some of us here to believe that but it's true.

I would have no problem acquitting Donald Trump, Chauvin, or anyone else if I thought the prosecution had failed to carry its burden of proof.


by Rococo k

I would have no problem acquitting Donald Trump, Chauvin, or anyone else if I thought the prosecution had failed to carry its burden of proof.

you and aqua are upper middle class well educated old school centrists of age so yes I think you both would actually do that.

lol at the idea that politically/ideologically biased normies on average would though.

and lol at the idea that having an heuristic according to which random people are horrible is wrong


No, you specifically cited their ethos, which in their case featured unbridled blood lust and corruption.

You’re just a teenager really, aren’t you? Did you get expelled from school for something and now have too much time on your hands?


by Luciom k

i cite how they found pleasure in their daily life as inspiration

I can picture Lucy in a massive orgy, wanking over a portrait of Mussolini while reciting some satanic verses and thinking to himself:
tomorrow I will beat my post count.


by Luciom k

i cite how they found pleasure in their daily life as inspiration

It was probably a bit easier for them to find pleasure in their daily lives than it was for the blacksmiths.


by jalfrezi k

No, you specifically cited their ethos, which in their case featured unbridled blood lust and corruption.

You’re just 17 years old really, aren’t you? Did you get expelled from school for something and now have too much time on your hands?

I would place him between 55 and 65 year old.


by Rococo k

It was probably a bit easier for them to find pleasure in their daily lives than it was for the blacksmiths.

yes ofc. which is why my ethos has "earn enough money" as a very high priority.

you basically cannot self actualize as a human being within my model of what that means without significant access to resources.

if you can't marinate a beef cheek in 30-40 eur worth of Barolo before cooking what's life worth?


by Luciom k

and lol at the idea that having an heuristic according to which random people are horrible is wrong

Perhaps, but it isn't at all obvious to me that you would assess the evidence more fairly than a random person.


by Luciom k

yes ofc. which is why my ethos has "earn enough money" as a very high priority

Tell me more about how Cesare was mostly a self-made man.


and ofc you need servants (as discussed in the past). lol at the idea of doing laundry or cleaning your bathroom ffs


by Rococo k

I would have no problem acquitting Donald Trump, Chauvin, or anyone else if I thought the prosecution had failed to carry its burden of proof.

Me neither. Also no problem acquitting many people where the prosecution did carry its burden of proof. **** the prosecutors.


by Rococo k

Tell me more about how Cesare was mostly a self-made man.

? you just look at what he had access to and try to replicate. if you don't have money you need it to replicate.

and anyway the Borgia claim was to suggest that western identity isn't only about boring, sad, castrating Christianity.


by Luciom k

I think the jury system is a disgrace for those cases because of the exposure to narratives about events people inevitably get before they become jurors.

How would you have such cases decided?

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