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In other news

In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there are important, interesting or just plain weird things happening out there and a group of people can find these better than one.

I thought I would test with a thread for linking general news articles about "other news" and discussion. Perhaps it goes into the abyss that is page 2 and beyond, but it is worth a try.

Some guidelines:
- Try to find the "clean link", so that links to the news site directly and not a social media site. Avoid "amp-links" (google).
- Write some cliff notes on what it is about, especially if it is a video.
- It's not an excuse to make outlandish claims via proxy or link extremist content.
- If it's an editorial or opinion piece, it is polite to mark it as such.
- Note the language if it is not in English.
- There is no demand that such things be posted here, if you think a piece merits its own thread, then make one.

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12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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by microbet k

Lol. Stormtrooper who murders a black person obviously gets your support.

It was more a critic of the jury system for ultra famous cases than anything else

Think of Mangione if you prefer, how the **** do you empanel an impartial jury there?


by BGnight k

Explain how that is ban worthy. Would you ban me if I said Dildo Donald? And I didn't even use a derogatory word. Was George Floyd a good person? A personal friend? You're just making **** up at this point and acting like a little dickhead dictator with a green screenname. It's definitely a sign I'm winning and making you sperg out when you delete my posts and edit a harmless nickname. It's just a pathetic form of cope that makes you abuse your mod "power".

Look, if you can give me a coherent rea

George Floyd was murdered and I'm not going to let you do a racist jig on his grave

Same reason many conspiracy theories are not allowed


by Luciom k

That's usually the case unless the jury feels threatened that immense riots would start in their city if they don't convict.

This is complete horseshit speculation on your part. There is no empirical evidence to support the proposition that fear of riots affects jury outcomes. And it doesn't align with anecdotal observation either.

Btw, I still don't understand how an impartial jury could be empanelled in that case, where did they find 12 people with absolutely no a priori opinion on the events that led to Floyd death?

I am not getting into this with you again because I know where we will end up. You think that impartiality requires something close to complete obliviousness. That isn't the standard for jury selection in the United States.


by Rococo k

This is complete horseshit speculation on your part. There is no empirical evidence to support the proposition that fear of riots affects jury outcomes. And it doesn't align with anecdotal observation either.
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People who feared for their lives to be jurors in that case were excluded, and ofc the only reason to fear for your life is you entertain the possibility of not convincting Chauvin.

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MINNEAPOLIS — One prospective juror’s voice quivered as she told attorneys during jury selection that she feared for her family’s safety if chosen for the panel that will decide the fate of a white former police officer charged with killing George Floyd. When the judge excused her, the woman exhaled in relief.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/28...

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But sure let's empanel an impartial jury of 12 people who absolutely don't fear for their lives because they are all BLM supporters


by BGnight k

His asphyxia was a direct result of the drugs he was on. The "I can't breath" was said when he was in the cop car. He asked to be set down on the concrete. Doesn't really matter. I don't really care. Floyd was a terrible person. People make jokes about dead people all the time. May God have mercy on him.

The point is the mods on here exercise their power strictly on political bias. The **** libs on here are constantly using nasty and vulgar rhetoric and you think it's funny cuz they're on "your

I recommend watching the well documented evidence that you are either wrong about everything or just straight lying.

You have an opportunity to retract your statement


by Luciom k

Btw, I still don't understand how an impartial jury could be empanelled in that case, where did they find 12 people with absolutely no a priori opinion on the events that led to Floyd death?

IANAL, but I don't think that is required.


by Montrealcorp k

- Unlike personal beliefs , religion forces you to believe and act in a mandatory way that often goes against equality , secularism and rule of law while promoting many discriminations.
So stop…

Do you choose to be believe in equality, or is it something you see as an incontrovertible virtue? I'm guessing the latter. I'm not arguing against the belief, but if it's not something that can be questioned then it's dogma. Secular people still have a range unquestionable deeply held beliefs that guide their actions and can put them in moral dilemmas when it comes to governing.


by Rococo k

I think puerile nicknames like Dildo Donald are mostly stupid also, not because I think he has earned respect but rather because this isn't a game. And needless to say, if Donald Trump were unlawfully killed like George Floyd, my enthusiasm for giving him dumb nicknames wouldn't increase.

What if his unlawful killing involved a dildo? You wouldn't be just the slightest bit tempted?


by corpus vile k

What if his unlawful killing involved a dildo? You wouldn't be just the slightest bit tempted?

LOL


by coordi k

I recommend watching the well documented evidence that you are either wrong about everything or just straight lying.

You have an opportunity to retract your statement

NYT is untrustworthy propaganda.


by BGnight k

NYT is untrustworthy propaganda.

So you aren't willing to watch the video and admit you are wrong? (or lying)


by microbet k

Lol. Stormtrooper who murders a black person obviously gets your support.

Chauvin was shady af. He also knew Floyd. Keep trying to make it a racist thing. It's cute.

"He's making a point, call him a racist!"


by Didace k

IANAL, but I don't think that is required.

what does that acronym mean?


by BGnight k

His asphyxia was a direct result of the drugs he was on. The "I can't breath" was said when he was in the cop car.

No, Floyd died right there on the ground, after repeatedly stating that he could not breathe with a policeman compressing his neck, and did not survive to be put into any cop car, and we've all seen the real-time video of the event, and the criminal courts have taken a view.


by Luciom k

what does that acronym mean?

I Am Not A Lawyer.


by Luciom k

what does that acronym mean?

I Am Not A Lawyer


by corpus vile k

What if his unlawful killing involved a dildo? You wouldn't be just the slightest bit tempted?

'The dildo of consequences seldom comes lubed.'


by zers k

Do you choose to be believe in equality, or is it something you see as an incontrovertible virtue? I'm guessing the latter. I'm not arguing against the belief, but if it's not something that can be questioned then it's dogma. Secular people still have a range unquestionable deeply held beliefs that guide their actions and can put them in moral dilemmas when it comes to governing.

I don't think moral dilemmas is the issue tbh.

no matter how religious (or not) you are, Yoh either have a coherent (ie ranked) morality or not.

if you do there are no dilemmas as you have a defined priority list of what morally is more important and you go through that.

it's if you never spent time to straighten your priorities that you can get into a dilemma, which is nothing but simply asking yourself what you actually consider more important, making a choice

problem is when low IQ (or just rigid) people want to convince themselves they hold more than one absolute moral value (which obviously is never possible and is always false no matter how much you want to believe it). then ofc you can get into a dilemma if 2 of those conflict with each other.

but yes ofc secular people aren't different from religious people for all of the above


by coordi k

So you aren't willing to watch the video and admit you are wrong? (or lying)

I've seen it, you're wrong, and I don't care. You can call it "murder", but the fact is a drug addicted swindler who beat pregnant women (allegedly) died in an unfortunate situation brought about by his poor choices *shrugs*. There's a lot worse going on in the world.

"Between 1997 and 2005, Floyd served eight jail terms on various charges, including drug possession, theft, and trespass"

So worth burning down cities over.


by BGnight k

I've seen it, you're wrong, and I don't care. You can call it "murder", but the fact is a drug addicted swindler who beat pregnant women (allegedly) died in an unfortunate situation brought about by his poor choices *shrugs*. There's a lot worse going on in the world.

"Between 1997 and 2005, Floyd served eight jail terms on various charges, including drug possession, theft, and trespass"

So worth burning down cities over.

we can both dismantle the grotesque sanctification of Floyd, AND accept the idea that Chauvin broke the law in significant ways and should be punished for that severely, even if we don't like at all the victim and we don't think the world is a worse place with him gone.

take it to the extreme, think of a convicted pedophile in jail. I won't shed a tear if a guard murders him but I want the guard in prison for life anyway, simply because we need a rule based order to live our lives properly, all of us do.

a reasonably fairly conducted trial found him guilty. an appeal confirmed. we either accept the rule of law or not.

usually it's the left that doesn't accept it. we are not like them


by BGnight k

I don't care.

Now we are getting closer to the truth about your views.


by BGnight k

I've seen it, you're wrong, and I don't care. You can call it "murder", but the fact is a drug addicted swindler who beat pregnant women (allegedly) died in an unfortunate situation brought about by his poor choices *shrugs*. There's a lot worse going on in the world.

"Between 1997 and 2005, Floyd served eight jail terms on various charges, including drug possession, theft, and trespass"

So worth burning down cities over.

George Floyd was scum and you could argue his drug usage contributed to his death . The question is if the officer had not pinned his neck that long would he have died. If it contributed to his death than the officer is guilty

Though the fact this case has nothing to do with racism and more with a poorly trained or rogue officer. We have no clue if he would have treated a white person the same given the situation

I still remember a house that had a BLM sign up, an Indigenous lives matter sign up , a LGQBT2+ sign up and I started to think that kind of sounds like All Lives Matter 😀


by Rococo k

Now we are getting closer to the truth about your views.

The more you try your hardest to label me a racist nazi the more I know I'm winning.

I don't give af about G.F. and I don't have to. I was watching police brutality videos since 2009 and no one cared until that day. It was a scripted "movement" that came just after everyone is pent up with lockdown brain during an election year. There was nothing organic about the "outrage" that ensued. BLM, Soros, antifa and other goons all pushed it to sow discontent and chaos.
The mind boggling hypocrisy of one minute shunning anyone who wanted to go for a walk and then gathering in the thousands still pisses me off to no end.
Thank God Biden "won" in 2020. Trump wouldn't have been able to do a fraction of what he's accomplishing now. We thank all you useful idiots who made it happen.


by BGnight k

The more you try your hardest to label me a racist nazi the more I know I'm winning.

I don't give af about G.F. and I don't have to. I was watching police brutality videos since 2009 and no one cared until that day. It was a scripted "movement" that came just after everyone is pent up with lockdown brain during an election year. There was nothing organic about the "outrage" that ensued. BLM, Soros, antifa and other goons all pushed it to sow discontent and chaos.

That was lame.

COVID broke a lot of brains. Yours and Luciom's included.

(Did you say no one cared about police brutality before BLM? LA/Rodney King riots in 1992 were considerably larger than all the BLM riots put together.)


by Luciom k

People who feared for their lives to be jurors in that case were excluded, and ofc the only reason to fear for your life is you entertain the possibility of not convincting Chauvin.

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MINNEAPOLIS — One prospective juror’s voice quivered as she told attorneys during jury selection that she feared for her family’s safety if chosen for the panel that will decide the fate of a white former police officer charged with killing George Floyd. When the judge excused her, the woman exhaled in relief.

This is about as stupid as Playbig believing the Trump jury was paid off and they are now being held at Guantanamo for treason by the military.

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