Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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no I saw it. they carpet bombed around a hospital and claimed they killed him. it was intermixed with all the dead babies in my feed. I dont ever trust anything Israel says so there is no point mentioning it.
How is it that after 18 months of purported targeting of hospitals and doctors , there are still hospitals in gaza at all?
You can be as resilient as we want but you know for a fact that if a country bombing you wants to, you won't have any hospitals ever after a few weeks.
And any attempt to re-establish one would be met with immediate demolition.
And after a while 100% of doctors are dead within the destroyed buildings as well.
So we can say with 100% certainty that hospitals only exist in Gaza because Israel allows them to. Which is not what you would do if you wanted to actually genocide the population.
You guys understand when Israel "bombs" a hospital, they normally are just bombing some alleged terrorist base or weapons depot in one section of it, and everything else carries on as usual around it. Even Hamas probably just moves the base to a different area of the hospital and carries on as usual.
If Israel actually wanted to shut down a hospital all they have to do is cut electricity. When hospitals do become fully unworkable it is normally because electricity is cut off (as a secondary effect of bombing or another reason); not because it was bombed to rubble.
There are several working hospitals in Gaza, including ones that have been "bombed" in the last week. A lot of the rhetoric surrounding the hospitals being "shut down" is word games really saying they aren't fully functional. Which is kind of what you get when you have been fighting a war and have been under siege for 1.5 years.
Yes, probably none of the 20 currently functioning hospitals in Gaza are operating at full capacity compared to October 6th, 2023. But they are still busy and operating.
You guys understand when Israel "bombs" a hospital, they normally are just bombing some alleged terrorist base or weapons depot in one section of it, and everything else carries on as usual around it. Even Hamas probably just moves the base to a different area of the hospital and carries on as usual. If Israel actually wanted to shut down a hospital all they have to do is cut
heres the terrorist base
everytime a terrorist takes shelter somewhere, that's a terrorist base.
and everyone who is a member of Hamas or materially supports Hamas is a terrorist.
and everyplace where any of those individual is , is a fair target, no matter how many civilians are there.
and most of what you call civilians aren't such, everyone who helps Hamas isn't a civilian. helping includes knowing you are Hamas and not notifying the IDF, preparing meals, and so on.
Yes, a lot of what we call "bases" is just a bunch of dudes with AK-47s sitting around drinking coffee and smoking in a reasonably safe space from enemy fire (which in Hamas case is normally going to be underground and/or in a school or hospital).
Which is how 95% of time in wars is spent by soldiers.
I dont guard a concentration camp and execute civilians for fun and profit. so I dont think you would consider that much of a life.
Formal apartheid advances, .
A new report by the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI) warns that the Israeli government is advancing a sweeping set of legislative proposals that disproportionately target Arab citizens and Palestinians, while laying the groundwork for a legal infrastructure that threatens civil liberties and democratic oversight for all.
The Israeli army is threatening to bomb six of the largest displacement centers in Gaza City, sheltering hundreds of thousands of displaced families.
Israel is averaging 178 murdered children per day. Doubtless its leaders will be proud of the lead it's built up over another famous concentration camp that averaged 127.
for anyone who thinks the liberal world order supports Hamas. this speech cost this guy his diploma from a very liberal, very democrat school
in case anyone missed it, since releasing Edan Alexander, the Extremist who traveled 1000s of miles to serve as a guard in a concentration camp, as a "show of good faith" in the hopes that Trump would allow food to the starving civilians, Israel has killed like 200 people including wiping out an orphanage.
Did you consider that the university is reliant on government funds and is bending the knee because Trump has said they would withhold funding for universities that let people say these things?
Weird you are content with blaming the "liberal world" for conservatives stifling free speech
for anyone who thinks the liberal world order supports Hamas. this speech cost this guy his diploma from a very liberal, very democrat schoolin case anyone missed it, since releasing Edan Alexander, the Extremist who traveled 1000s of miles to serve as a guard in a concentration camp, as a "show of good faith" in the hopes that Trump would allow food to the starving civilians,
This guy isn't going to lose his diploma. They are going to wait till things die down and then quietly give it to him and rescind whatever disciple he was given. All these schools are quietly doing as little as possible to "punish" pretty much all the protestors that aren't egregiously violent.
In a couple weeks they will quietly hand him his diploma and clear his record. And life will move on, although he might have trouble finding work with an Israeli company, which he would never intentionally apply to anyways.
