Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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its been their policy since Oct 7. and really since the 1800s when the founders of Zionism explicitly stated their intention to do genocide. and they have been enacting it since the beginning.
What politicians in London are saying publicly now is merely perception management.
From arms shipments to spy flights and intelligence sharing, the UK military has been a key partner to this genocide every step of the way.
What politicians in London are saying publicly now is merely perception management.
From arms shipments to spy flights and intelligence sharing, the UK military has been a key partner to this genocide every step of the way.
No, I don't think so. And you are yourself a partisan of Hamas, who are genocidal maniacs and make no bones about their intentions in that regard. They're just idiots who don't have the military clout to enact those intentions and they've made the basic playground error of picking on a bigger boy. And they certainly couldn't care less what happens to the population of Gaza as long as they maintain their doctrinal purity and their supposedly sacred mission.
No I'm far from being a partisan of Hamas as you call it.
Your stanning for a genocidal nation has been exposed, and it's quite embarrassing for you, isn't it? At least you're still here I suppose, unlike your monstrous ghoul-mates rafiki, gs and mets who all disappeared when it became clear to everyone what's happening in Gaza.
You seem to have spent your whole life serving and servicing the UK establishment without ever having had the faintest inkling you've been conned.
The UK has suspended its trade talks with Israel and the Foreign Secretary has called the latest Gaza offensive 'monstrous'.
https://www.thetimes.com/world/middle-ea...
It is fine to put pressure on Israel to behave better. Just be cognizant that for geopolitical and financial reasons your nation (and mine) is way too permissive of Hamas and their state sponsors, who are a much more malignant and permanent part of the problem.
And because of this there should be little expectation for a functional Palestinian state, or really and improvement in the general situation, regardless of how much pressure you put on Israel.
There's always an arms race but a huge fallacy to think that means it's not going to be a devastating problem.
The UK has suspended its trade talks with Israel and the Foreign Secretary has called the latest Gaza offensive 'monstrous'.
https://www.thetimes.com/world/middle-ea...I agree with you it's not PR. It's quite a staggering development showing just had much support for Isarel has been lost. It's almost unthinkable that relations it could have got this bad and it's not just the Uk.
Not a fan of starmer to put it mildly but this (and the eu deal) was good stuff. Limited but good.
It is fine to put pressure on Israel to behave better. Just be cognizant that for geopolitical and financial reasons your nation (and mine) is way too permissive of Hamas and their state sponsors, who are a much more malignant and permanent part of the problem. And because of this there should be little expectation for a functional Palestinian state, or really and improveme
“Behave better”
You’re deliberately making Israel sound like a naughty schoolboy talking too much during lessons instead of the rogue fascist death cult state we know it to be.
I agree with you it's not PR. It's quite a staggering development showing just had much support for Isarel has been lost. It's almost unthinkable that relations it could have got this bad and it's not just the Uk.
Not a fan of starmer to put it mildly but this (and the eu deal) was good stuff. Limited but good.
Its PR for the politicians implicated in war crimes now attempting to whitewash their reputations.
I looked this guy up and I am kinda confused by his comments bc he seems to be a professional baby killer
"Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory."
Moshe Feiglin, leader of the Zehut party.
No I'm far from being a partisan of Hamas as you call it.Your stanning for a genocidal nation has been exposed, and it's quite embarrassing for you, isn't it? At least you're still here I suppose, unlike your monstrous ghoul-mates rafiki, gs and mets who all disappeared when it became clear to everyone what's happening in Gaza.
The more likely scenario is they just got bored of responding to the same loons repeatedly parroting each other. Mets got singled out and banned by a mod. This is mostly deflection and Jalfrezi not being able to admit he supports the group who is directly responsible for the Palestinian’s current situation.
It probably wouldn’t hurt to unplug from Twitter and Reddit for a day.
Now we know where the red line is for some politicians. Decapitated babies, bodies burned alive in tents, active hospitals flattened by bombs, homes blown to pieces, civilian massacres in broad daylight, mass graves - all acceptable.
Starvation a step too far. Memories of western media feasting on its pornography of African famine I guess.
the Western backed ISIS thugs rampaging through Syria right now usually leave the women and children alone and execute the men. Israelis target the babies.
its been their policy since Oct 7. and really since the 1800s when the founders of Zionism explicitly stated their intention to do genocide. and they have been enacting it since the beginning.
if that was the policy since 300 AD why didn't they bomb every day since bombs were invented and actually achieve their goals?
stop straw Manning.
yes after 10 7 their policy is to fully eradicate Hamas and partners at any cost, as it is obviously correct to do.
and that requires capillar control of every inch of Gaza and the WB for decades, and no freedom for any "palestinese" that chooses to remain there.
granted, everyone there should be allowed to leave if some place is willing to take them.
everyone who stays is to be considered a present threat because there is no rational reason to stay unless you want to "resist".
and those who resist should be terminated.
I looked this guy up and I am kinda confused by his comments bc he seems to be a professional baby killer
It's the liberal position. Use smart bombs instead of dumb because we've got values.
