Israel/Palestine thread

Your source looks like a checkraisfold kinda guy and just as reliable:

imagine respecting this guy

this is the smart side of the new right

Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️
@realchrisrufo
The Israel-Gaza conflict is breaking the brains of everyone in politics. First it was the academic Left that celebrated the bloodlust hours after October 7. But on the Right, too, there is a growing and unhealthy obsession that is deranging otherwise smart and honest people.

https://x.com/realchrisrufo/status/19552...

Sounds like distorted convusions in an attempt to explain away how Netanyahu monsterous action have turned sentiment so strongly against israel

lol this is psychotically stupid

religious extremists fully indoctrinated in a culture of violence. they will go down in history alongside the ISIS headchoppers.

includes a map so checkraisfold doesn't have to google

i didn't think we agreed on hamas

says the guy that rots his brain on hamas propaganda from twitter

You’ve never used Telegram, have you?

that's a video taken by an italian, it's "all the rage" among the italian victors on twitter these days.

Ofc he is just answering the movements the pro-hamas athlete did in front of him

Why do you assume anti-Israel = pro-Hamas?

It's perfectly possible to believe Hamas are awful and Israel are much, much worse.

…which is a sensible position.

But he and the other crazed Zionists here don’t really believe anyone here is pro Hamas, it’s just mindless rhetoric from them to deflect from their genocidal cravings which they know are unacceptable.

Israel are worse than Hamas?

Jesus Christ, you people are brainwashed

Let someone launch some rockets at your household and see how you respond.

I can believe someone is against hamas AND israel, if that person criticizes Israel as much as he wants but is happy every single time an Hamas operative, or anyone who at any time materially supported Hamas, gets killed.

Unless you do agree that all people related to Hamas (and any other similar group) deserve to be killed though, then no i don't believe you.

If you truly believe Israel is much, much worse than Hamas, it’s safe to say you harbor a strong anti-Israel bias.

Is there a source that debunks the claims that Anas Al Sharif worked for Hamas? Looking for something more substantial than a random Twitter account claiming it was debunked.

BBC claimed that he worked for Hamas media before Oct 7th but I didn’t see a source for that.

I don't believe anyone deserves to be killed. It's sociopathic to be happy about it, no matter how evil you consider the target.

Celebrating death is just so far out of my frame of reference I'm hoping you're exaggerating for effect.

I think it's sociopathic and incompatible with real life to be against the idea that killing people who want to kill you (or your family, friend, society or allies) is absolutely reasonable and often necessary and morally imperative.

Celebrating the elimination of an enemy is, since forever, one of the best ways to unite a group of people, and one of the most moral events in most society histories. Think king arthur founding the round table.

There is no exaggeration: i do think you fail to exist as a competent and able human being if you don't endorse unlimited violence to be waged against your enemies, and that this is a lot more true if you are a man (this, i don't know).

A man most important role in society is to be willing to risk his life to eliminate enemies, humans or otherwise, to protect his family and friends and society at large. There is NOTHING that is more moral than that, nothing that is more essential and fundamental to define if you are a decent human begin as a man or not.

Just going from what I've seen on TV news here (BBC, channel 4 and sky I think) they've said he previously worked for the Hamas state media (before moving to Al-Jazeera) but was known to often not toe the party line. Hamas were the government of Gaza so technically he was paid by Hamas which is enough for Israel to assassinate him. But he wasn't a fighter or even someone that held violent views, he was well-respected among other journalists and by all accounts a decent guy.

Israel killed him because he had a large social media following and was the primary source of many uncomfortable videos showing the current famine. He claimed that an Israeli general phoned him and ordered him to stop posting these videos or they'd take him out, hence why he prepared a final statement for when that happened.

It's hard to understand anyone supporting it, no matter how deep your hatred of his ethnicity goes.

No offense, but have you paid any attention to the conflict?

Here’s a photo of Hamas parading hostages through the streets. The Gazans look pretty happy there.

This is probably the most bizarre post I have ever read on 2+2 and I've been on here over 20 years.

So the source doesn’t exist and it was never actually debunked? That’s mostly what im interested in.