Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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You don't have either grammar or success so it's a moot point.
A waiter complaining about Canadians not tipping enough is not my definition of successful.
I used to be a waiter but now I’m an actor.
Some Canadians do tip. I wonder if it matters which province they come from. From my experience the worst tippers are
1) Indians (India)
2) Young minorities
3) Young women
4) Canadians
5) Women.
nope. Sinwar died a hero. one of history's greatest. he lives on in all people of freedom and morality.
they put out a video a few days ago hitting a D9 that killed a Palestinian contractor for the IDF.
It looks like my trip to Israel is a go. Just booked our El Al tickets from Rome. My friend Moishe says things are nearly 100% back to normal. The IDF has neutralized the attacks from the terrorists to the north.
I think as usual you’re missing the point, hardly surprising for such a blunt tool.
Israeli army chief says West Bank troops ‘killing like we haven’t killed since 1967’
Leaked remarks by Maj Gen Avi Bluth describe fatal shootings of stone-throwers and different treatment for Jewish settlers
The remarks by Maj Gen Avi Bluth, head of the army’s central command, were made in a recent closed forum but were leaked to Israel’s Haaretz newspaper. Bluth has so far not denied the authenticity of the Haaretz account. The Israel Defense Forces did not respond to a request for comment.
Bluth, who was born in a West Bank settlement and educated in a religious military academy in the occupied territory, spoke bluntly about the discriminatory military justice his soldiers administer.
He said they had shot 42 Palestinian stone-throwers on West Bank roads last year, insisting that such acts amounted to terrorism. Bluth said the army does not shoot Jewish settler militants for doing the same thing, noting that on one occasion when a settler throwing stones at motorists had been wounded by army gunfire, there was a public “ruckus”.
“Any such incident has very serious consequences from a societal perspective,” Bluth said, according to the reported remarks, openly admitting: “Yes, it involves discrimination.” Palestinians are subjected to military law in the West Bank and to extended detention without trial, while Israelis are judged by civilian courts.
Bluth said another way he had loosened legal constraints on Israeli soldiers in the West Bank was to allow the maiming of Palestinians caught trying to cross the separation barrier into Israel in search of work.
“At the [separation barrier], it is currently permitted to detain a suspect by shooting him at the knee or below to create ‘barrier awareness’,” Bluth said, adding that it served as a deterrent.
“There are a lot of ‘limping monuments’ in Palestinian villages of those who tried to [cross the barrier], so there is a price being paid,” he said.
As with stone-throwers, Bluth justified his rules of engagement on the grounds that each illegal Palestinian worker was a “potential terrorist”. The general also portrayed his actions as part of a “survival of the fittest” struggle.
“If someone comes to kill you, kill them first is the norm in the Middle East, so we’re killing like we haven’t killed since 1967,” Bluth said, in reference to the war against Arab states that resulted in the permanent occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. Thousands of Palestinians were killed in the second intifada from 2000 to 2005.
“His apartheidist approach, under which the army shoots only Palestinian stone-throwers, not Jewish ones, was justified on the grounds of the ‘sociological consequences’ of shooting at the latter,” Haaretz said in an editorial, asking: “Did he take into account the ‘sociological consequences’ of these ‘lame monuments’ on the Palestinians?”
Bluth had sparked controversy a few days earlier with a warning, also reported in Haaretz, that “Jewish terror” carried out by extremists, known as “hilltop youth”, would ultimately trigger an uprising.
“These people don’t see Arabs as human beings and think it’s possible to burn people alive, to burn houses down with their occupants inside, and unfortunately, they do this frequently,” Bluth said, according to the Haaretz account.
The general said “it’s almost a miracle that the Palestinians are still indifferent” but added they “won’t remain indifferent indefinitely” and warned of the possibility of a West Bank uprising.
“Bluth has now revealed what everyone already knew: the Israel Defense Forces is working hand in hand with the settlers who are carrying out the daily pogroms,” Haaretz commented. “Bluth calls it Israeli terrorism, but not only does he not try to prevent it in the same way that the IDF prevents Palestinian terrorism, but he is actually abetting it.”
Well, don’t throw stones and don’t try to sneak into Israel.
light injuries camera cuts so no impact or blood fwiw: https://x.com/bonzerbarry/status/2051664...
Looks like a great coastline. No wonder Israel wants to annex it.




