Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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I did post an explanation even though the context was obvious. You guys just don't like that the IDF genociders are getting smoked in South Lebanon.
I don't like anyone being blown up.
Why did you post an explanation after the spam?
Why do you think multiple people wondered wtf are these pics?
Do you honestly believe the context was obvious?
If it was so obvious , do you believe people are out to get you?
Out of bad faith?
Personally I think you are the closest thing there is on this forum to a mossad agent.
Do you honestly believe the context was obvious?
its weird that Elway and Bill Haywood and geezer all knew exactly what the pics were.
Why do you think multiple people wondered wtf are these pics?
a combination of lying, bad faith, incuriousness, lack of reading comprehension, and even outright refusal to read.
when biggerboat asked I answered immediately bc I consider him a good faith and civil poster.
I don’t post multiple daily videos of Palestinians getting bombed just to agitate Palestinian supporters.
Hezbollah targets invading rape murderers. Israel stalks 12 year old girls to murder for pleasure. its not the same.
you made your post 5 posts after the first 2. I cant teach you to read man.
its weird that Elway and Bill Haywood and geezer all knew exactly what the pics were.
a combination of lying, bad faith, incuriousness, lack of reading comprehension, and even outright refusal to read.
when biggerboat asked I answered immediately bc I consider him a good faith and civil poster.
Aight, let's try to follow your logic here.
biggerboat asked 11 posts after your explanation, by your own standard he is ''a combination of lying, bad faith, incuriousness, lack of reading comprehension, and even outright refusal to read.
'' and also cannot read?
I'm confused here.
Ok buddy, keep flailing at the windmills and live in la la land in your own head.
I guess you have no goals and no message to pass.
You change your stance so often it's hard to follow.
Tomorrow you'll be back at condemning the mullahs and the day after praising ''insert random country''.
its weird that Elway and Bill Haywood and geezer all knew exactly what the pics were.
a combination of lying, bad faith, incuriousness, lack of reading comprehension, and even outright refusal to read.
when biggerboat asked I answered immediately bc I consider him a good faith and civil poster.
I myself had no idea what those pics were about. I responded to a post by Elway about what is permissible in this forum assuming that Elway's interpretation of the pics was correct.
FPV drones are a new and important development. many think that it is gamechanger that will force the expansionist Jewish State to return to occupied Palestine and leave Lebanon. Hezbollah has shifted their tactics from expensive, cumbersome, and relatively easy to detect/block rockets to cheap drones that are easy to build, launch, and to detect.the 2024 war showed almost no
I am mostly grunching this thread; but a couple points.
The only reason the Israel offensive stalled was because Trump told them to stall during the current negotiations. Hezbollah has no conventional military capabilities that was impeding the Israeli offensive in any way. All they can do is retreat and engage in guerrilla action.
And even with the offensive stalled, the IDF is still destroying Hezbollah infrastructure and the casualty ratio is still somewhere in the 100:1 range. A LOT of Hezbollah paramilitary are dying for the occasional Israel soldier getting hit by a drone.
That being said, with the offensive stalled and their soldiers just sitting stationary in Lebanese territory, the IDF are just sitting ducks, and are taking casualties (even if it is still 100:1). And this isn't a situation that can last indefinitely. Sooner or later they need to either go on the offensive again or go back to Israel.
That being said, of all the Iranian backed paramilitaries, Hezbollah has by far fared the worst in the last 3 years. Massive amounts of casualties and loss of influence and power (in Syria and Lebanon) with nothing positive to show for it. And any attempt to spin this as anything but a disaster for Lebanon, and especially the Lebanese Shia community, is pure Tankie cope.
Also, my understanding is Israel has (belatedly) started to employ barb wire to cut the low altitude fiber optic drones that has worked well for Ukraine against Russian fiber optic drones. So hopefully this is effective in mitigating the fiber optic drone vulnerability.
100 to 1 eh?
loss of influence and power
interestingly this poll just came out the other day.
very strange that so many people would admit over the phone to supporting Hezbollah weapons. looks like Israel has some new targets though.
That article suggests it could be much worse than 100:1. That article says at least 2,500 Hezbollah/Lebanese casualties since March. I don't think Israel has had 25 soldiers die in Lebanon. The fact all the attacks are happening on the Lebanon side of the border and they cant launch anything against Israel itself underlies how weak Hezbollah currently is.
Less than 3 years ago, Nasrallah was boasting that if Israel ever attacked Beirut then Hezbollah would rain missiles down on Tel Aviv, and serious people took him seriously. Fast forward 3 years and you are boasting that 1x/week a drone is hitting an IDF soldier in Lebanon, which is 10% occupied with 20% of its population displaced; and the only reason it isn't worse is geopolitical events, not Hezbollah. Pure cope.
Anyways, I certainly wasn't arguing there wasn't any support in Lebanon for the Lebanese Shia community sacrificing itself on behalf of the IRGC. There certainly is.
My point was they are remarkably ineffective, especially for a guerrilla force operating on its own home turf, and the only thing holding Israel back is geopolitical events. Not Hezbollah's effectiveness.
That being said, even 100:1 casualty ratio while staying in place with no clear objective or off ramp is still probably unacceptable for Israel. So they will have to do something. And when they do I am sure you and the other delusional Tankies will declare it a win for Hezbollah.
Israel counts the paramedics and journalist as Hezbollah. they probably counted that 12 year old Syrian refugee girl that they hunted down with 3 drones to make sure she was blown to bits.
lol dude I didnt even need to read it to know you were full of ****.
That article says at least 2,500 Hezbollah/Lebanese casualties since March.
This is the weirdest exchange ever.
I make a claim. You "refute" the claim by linking an article that actually supports my claim.
I read the article and correctly point out it supports my claim.
You provide a screenshot of the article, which again supports my claim, as a gotcha "refuting" it.
I can only guess your "gotcha" is playing some sort of bad faith word game that "over 2500 people" isn't the same as "over 2500 Hezbollah/Lebanese".
right, wtf is a Hezbollah/Lebanese casualty? like are you really counting when they hunt down and murder 12 year old girls? bc that does not weaken Hezbollah in a military sense. it hurts them as freedom loving human beings and men of God unlike the genocidal rapists of the IDF.
right, wtf is a Hezbollah/Lebanese casualty? like are you really counting when they hunt down and murder 12 year old girls? bc that does not weaken Hezbollah in a military sense. it hurts them as freedom loving human beings and men of God unlike the genocidal rapists of the IDF.
Entire Shia villages, where a high % of men are members of Hezbollah, have been effectively eliminated. And increasingly Hezbollah's admitted casualties are teenagers, as they have lost so much manpower they are resorting to shoring up their numbers with recruits from their "Mahdi scouts," which is their youth indoctrination programs.
The last 3 years really has been nothing short of an unmitigated disaster for the Lebanese Shia community, all on behalf of Iran's IRGC and a demented end time apocalyptic prophecy.
ofc they have taken losses. thats what happens when facing the most murderous people in history. but the Jewish State has only claimed a few kilometers and is not building settlements. the rape army will need to kill 100s of thousands and take many of their own casualties to fulfill their project. you seem confident but as a lover of humanity I think the men of god will eventually prevail.
ofc they have taken losses. thats what happens when facing the most murderous people in history. but the Jewish State has only claimed a few kilometers and is not building settlements. the rape army will need to kill 100s of thousands and take many of their own casualties to fulfill their project. you seem confident but as a lover of humanity I think the men of god will eve
Amazin'!
ofc they have taken losses. thats what happens when facing the most murderous people in history. but the Jewish State has only claimed a few kilometers and is not building settlements. the rape army will need to kill 100s of thousands and take many of their own casualties to fulfill their project. you seem confident but as a lover of humanity I think the men of god will eve
The most murderous people in History? That’s hilariously off-base.
Israel says it will sue New York Times over article on sexual abuse of Palestinian prisoners
Interesting reaction.
Yeah, Victor is wrong, Israel is only maybe the 6th or 7th most murderous force in history. The Nazis, the US, the British Empire and others have thus far murdered more innocents than Israel. What a monumental victory for you ****ing freaks. Take a bow.
Funny that the Zionists have lost the war of opinion so thoroughly that "well, actually"-ing untrue statements by anti-Zionists is the best stuff they got left. Keep posting, though, that next apology-for-genocide post might be the one that reverses the phenomenon of the significant majority of the youth in the US and elsewhere regarding Israel as a malignant cancer on humanity.
Yeah, Victor is wrong, Israel is only maybe the 6th or 7th most murderous force in history. The Nazis, the US, the British Empire and others have thus far murdered more innocents than Israel. What a monumental victory for you ****ing freaks. Take a bow.Funny that the Zionists have lost the war of opinion so thoroughly that "well, actually"-ing untrue statements by anti-Zioni
Every single communist regime has been far more murderous. And nearly every contemporary ME regime
Every single communist regime has been far more murderous. And nearly every contemporary ME regime
In total deaths obviously Communist China and Russia take the cake. But special shout out to the Mongols for causing the death of ~11% of the entire world population at the time in the 13th-14th centuries. Iran as a true Empire never really recovered, it was so devastated.
In other news, in response to the aforementioned (relative) successes of recent Hezbollah drone attacks, Israel has announced it is going to back on the offensive against Hezbollah, even going after targets in Beirut. Reports are strikes today alone killed 20+ Hezbollah.
As I said before, Trump was the only reason IDF even paused the offensive in the first place, while he was negotiating with the regime.
And it seems he is done negotiating with the regime, and is instead negotiating with China to pressure the regime, and possibly cut them off. And under this geopolitical situation Trump may not care if Israel resumes the attack on Hezbollah.
