Israel/Palestine thread
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It might very well be that trump reached the right conclusion for the wrong reasons, yes.
Yet he did, he governed 4 years always siding with any Israel preference.
If he did that for money/interest, I don't know. It might be the case. Still if you end up doing the right thing I won't be angry about it no matter the reasons why
I dont remember the exact story so I am paraphrasing, but there is this story when Trump was thinking of moving the embassy to Jerusalem he asked one of his aides how the Palestinian people would respond, and he was told they already had a 0% approval rating of the US and him, so it wouldn't change anything. So he did it.
propaganda like saying that 9k Hamas have been killed and that all of the 400 or so killed at Shifa are Hamas?
deboonked as usual.
and apparently the Hebrew translation is not "invisible line" as in this tweet but actually "extermination area".
Obviously you dont spend much time in the Covid, Jan 6th or Trump threads that you are asking that question. The avatar should definitely be a clue.
Anyways, I suspect he is more along the lines of the traditional right wing tiki torch antisemite that you scare monger about; as opposed to the ones marching in the streets of NY wearing keffiyeh chanting "From the river to the sea."
The only think I know about him is from this thread and his posting here could just as well be from the left of the Dems and the HRC avatar would not be inconsistent with that.
You're saying he's a tiki torch antisemite? Brian, is that right? Did you go to the Unite the Right rally?
The only think I know about him is from this thread and his posting here could just as well be from the left of the Dems and the HRC avatar would not be inconsistent with that.
You're saying he's a tiki torch antisemite? Brian, is that right? Did you go to the Unite the Right rally?
No one went to the rally. It was like 500 people total, which is why I think you over scare-monger it.
But Brian is definitely coming from the right with his criticism of Bernie and Biden, and he is definitely a Trump supporter, so do with that information as you will.
Brian, are you concerned about white people being replaced in the USA? Do you think Jews are trying to replace you?
At any rate, Trump says he will send Israel whatever he can, so I would assume that someone who posts like he posts here would vote for someone like Cornell West.
well when Trump gets elected and starts shipping bombs to Israel and lying about beheaded babies and doing everything he can to support genocide, then we can point out the hypocrisy of Brian if he supports it. until then, hes on the right side for this one.
Crazy how not all issues fall evenly into "right" and "left"
well, if you define left and right properly then they pretty much do. its just that Maga and liberals are the same side.
well, if you define left and right properly then they pretty much do. its just that Maga and liberals are the same side.
Almost always if I use quotes and say "left" and "right" then I'm referring to the cultural right and left, not the actual right and left.
But to your point, I think you'll still find many people on the right-- e.g. people who support capitalism, "free markets", individualism, etc who are anti-war.
ostensibly on the right. but all the liberals say they believe in those things but when it comes time, they always support war.
I'm not voting for Biden, but slamming Bernie on this when he's one of 2 dems to vote against weapons to Israel because he won't basically campaign against Biden is absurd.
Is Brian a Trump supporter? If so, lol.
Brian seems like your garden variety trump voter unless im missing something. Trump gets like 3/4 of every white man vote.
No which is why he is pro helping Ukraine but wants the aid to be structured as a loan (presumably because he thinks Ukraine will end up owning Russian reserves so he thinks they can repay with the hundred of billions that are already in our possession which we will at some point officially take from Russia)
Brian seems like your garden variety trump voter unless im missing something. Trump gets like 3/4 of every white man vote.
Garden variety Trump supporter wants to bomb Gaza. Poll I'm looking at says 62% of Biden supporters say the US should halt arms shipments to Israel, but only 30% of Trump supporters say they should be halted.
No which is why he is pro helping Ukraine but wants the aid to be structured as a loan (presumably because he thinks Ukraine will end up owning Russian reserves so he thinks they can repay with the hundred of billions that are already in our possession which we will at some point officially take from Russia)
doing a war bc you think you will be able to steal Russian assets seems like a bold move cotton.
Garden variety Trump supporter wants to bomb Gaza. Poll I'm looking at says 62% of Biden supporters say the US should halt arms shipments to Israel, but only 30% of Trump supporters say they should be halted.
I wouldnt disagree with that. While your typical trump guy may have their opinion on what should be done with gaza, i dont think it would matter enough for them to change their vote due to the handling of gaza over all the other
reasons for voting for trump or biden.
Who the hell really knows anymore but I don't think a trump voter who is against what israel is doing is going to vote dem because Biden is too rough on the gazans.
I wouldnt disagree with that. While your typical trump guy may have their opinion on what should be done with gaza, i dont think it would matter enough for them to change their vote due to the handling of gaza over all the other reasons for voting for trump or biden.
Who the hell really knows anymore but I don't think a trump voter is going to become a lib because Biden is too rough on the gazans.
We don't have a candidacy to the right of trump for president yet but we already do in many seats for Congress (trump is actually very moderate on most topics compared to some people in the GOP).
Some people might be pissed off enough not to gote for trump but to vote for the Senate candidates who is against any shipment of weapons to any country or stuff like that.
But it can't happen this round, and for trump, even if he wins, this is the last time. But in a future world where trump wins in 2024, in 2028 you might very very well have primary candidates to the very far right of trump saying they should be picked because they wont help Israel anymore, just for example
If trump wins you guys will realize he is a moderate compared to many people on the right. like he is very left of center inside the GOP
lol for months the rafikis told us that Israel didnt target hospitals. now their commander just refutes. will they learn? are they capable of learning?
lol for months the rafikis told us that Israel didnt target hospitals. now their commander just refutes. will they learn? are they capable of learning?
Why do you lie? For months we told you hospitals become fair targets if Hamas hide there, and this is exactly what "they aren't a safe space" means.
Hamas has an easy way to keep hospitals safe: staying away from them.
right. dial it a down a bit, you are overplaying the whole Western chauvinist thing. people are going to recognize you as a caricature soon.
hamas & co's internal estimates suggest that their rockets killed about 100 palestinians for every single jew. 11% of them fell on palestinian heads
gteat job jerkoffs
note that this refers to the period where they were still in business - they are no longer firing many rockets into israel, which i'm sure we can all agree is a great thing
Israel at Shifa just made Bucha look like childs play.
