Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by rafiki

You're going to have to allow for some latitude when I have literally half the thread on ignore. But in this instance I was indeed just talking about the leader of team pro-rape.

if anyone is pro-rape its going to be the Israelis who keep lying about it happening. like, they really really really want for rape to have occurred. its weird.


the video shows nobody wearing a keffiyeh and nobody stomping her. just blatant dishonest from the side that was launching fireworks and macing people.


by Victor

if anyone is pro-rape its going to be the Israelis who keep lying about it happening. like, they really really really want for rape to have occurred. its weird.

When even the UN admits there's rape, you gotta get pretty rapie vibes. That they didn't ask you to perform the inspections is the only weird part Vic. This is your bread and butter.


by microbet

If you perma'd everyone who said or implied that other posters support rape or genocide (something I will say I've been careful to avoid and have been honest about mets and defended him saying I don't think he wants children killed, despite all the atrocious things and lies he's said about me), there'd be like 5% as much posting itt - it just wouldn't exist basically. It's the

Then maybe the thread should die.


by Bill Haywood

Breaking the law through civil disobedience is heroic.

Doing it to support Hamas and/or spread antisemitic tropes is idiotic, ignorant, and/or straight up evil.


Mets, you need to cool down and take a step back. If you could see Bibi is committing war crimes then you must admit he needs to go and Israel needs to do better in its prosecution of the war.

Microbet is idealistic, perhaps to the point of naïveté, but he has engaged in every discussion with respect and good faith. He is nothing like Victor and he deserves honest engagement if you are going to engage at all.


by rafiki

When even the UN admits there's rape, you gotta get pretty rapie vibes. That they didn't ask you to perform the inspections is the only weird part Vic. This is your bread and butter.

ya but the UN didnt do that.

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/03/heres-wha...


Mondoweiss is a Jewish paper btw


Those poor janitors, so much life left to live


by Bill Haywood

Breaking the law through civil disobedience is heroic.

The civil rights movement was heroic. It was also reasonable and appropriate. The protests today have no place in this country. They should go to the Middle East to vent their faux anger.


by grizy

Mets, you need to cool down and take a step back. If you could see Bibi is committing war crimes then you must admit he needs to go and Israel needs to do better in its prosecution of the war.Microbet is idealistic, perhaps to the point of naïveté, but he has engaged in every discussion with respect and good faith. He is nothing like Victor and he deserves honest engagement if

I dispute the naive part as I occasionally make it clear what I think is right is not necessarily realistic because hardly anyone agrees with me, but....thanks, and I'd also like to add that I'm not a race traitor.


by Victor

ya but the UN didnt do that. https://mondoweiss.net/2024/03/heres-wha... Mondoweiss is a Jewish paper btw

rape champion Vic, am I watching AI here, or dreaming?


Dude his source his jewish!! He has jewish friends too!


by grizy

Mets, you need to cool down and take a step back. If you could see Bibi is committing war crimes then you must admit he needs to go and Israel needs to do better in its prosecution of the war.Microbet is idealistic, perhaps to the point of naïveté, but he has engaged in every discussion with respect and good faith. He is nothing like Victor and he deserves honest engagement if

I said he MAY be. I'm not talking about the infrastructure. I'm talking about telling aid vehicles where to go and then being shot down

I think just about every pro Israel person in the thread has said bibi needs to go after the war. I can't think of one that didn't


by metsandfinsfan

Dude his source his jewish!! He has jewish friends too!

Now don't be silly


by Victor

Now don't be silly

Micro called you his friend


Bibi needs to go now.


by rafiki

Micro called you his friend

In that case, I ONLY have Jewish friends


by metsandfinsfan

I said he MAY be. I'm not talking about the infrastructure. I'm talking about telling aid vehicles where to go and then being shot down

I think just about every pro Israel person in the thread has said bibi needs to go after the war. I can't think of one that didn't

I don't know what they think about Bibi, but there are at least two posters itt who have said clearly that every single person in Gaza should be killed and a couple who have said stuff pretty close to that.


by grizy

Doing it to support Hamas and/or spread antisemitic tropes is idiotic, ignorant, and/or straight up evil.

Prove the Columbia occupiers support Hamas or spread antisemitic tropes.


by Bill Haywood

Prove the Columbia occupiers support Hamas or spread antisemitic tropes.

Ooooof the Hamas support stuff now is becoming pretty obvious. I think Vic would even agree that the basis of supporting the "resistance" is now at the core of a lot of these movements. And I don't think that's weird/shocking or even worth arguing. I barely find it noteworthy.

Antisemitic becomes a bigger challenge. It's never amazing supporting the guys who are sworn Jew-killers and then pretending you're generally good with Jews. Like saying "I'm not antisemitic but I generally support this Hitler fellow and his ideas" is a take. It's sort of like the take people in here are making with us in genocide. It's at least the same in reverse.

But let's just split the difference and say very clearly, most of these groups are now openly pro "resistance".


by rafiki

Ooooof the Hamas support stuff now is becoming pretty obvious. I think Vic would even agree that the basis of supporting the "resistance" is now at the core of a lot of these movements. And I don't think that's weird/shocking or even worth arguing. I barely find it noteworthy.Antisemitic becomes a bigger challenge. It's never amazing supporting the guys who are sworn Jew-killer

I don't think you're quite understanding it, but it's not what you'd call support. It is something like solidarity I guess, but the "don't speak out against the resistance" is basically the mirror image of people on the Israel side who won't speak ill of John Hagee or Luciom or Bibi DURING WAR TIME kind of thing. It's a pledge of allegiance is all - and the way I mean it itt, not like joining Hamas in any way. Also it's pretty culty.


by rafiki

most of these groups are now openly pro "resistance".

You are claiming this as proof of supporting Hamas? Nonsense, it's a vague term. I'm pro resistance, but not pro Hamas.

If you've ever been to a demonstration you know what a cacophony of voices they are. You haven't even made an attempt to prove that "most" protestors support Hamas.

This is the hasbara talking -- keep bringing it back to Hamas.

The only thing close to supporting Hamas I've heard was a limp chant that went "glory to the martyrs." That MIGHT have been a reference to Hamas fighters killed on Oct. 7, or it could just be referring to all the people killed by Israel. I don't know. It was a person in Madison on a bullhorn with few people answering back.


Prove it yo!
Prove there was rape on oct 7 too!!


by microbet

I don't think you're quite understanding it, but it's not what you'd call support. It is something like solidarity I guess, but the "don't speak out against the resistance" is basically the mirror image of people on the Israel side who won't speak ill of John Hagee or Luciom or Bibi DURING WAR TIME kind of thing. It's a pledge of allegiance is all - and the way I mean it itt,

Anyone who had an "allegiance" with the Nazis in WW2, I'd have been pretty ok with calling my enemy is the thing.


You don't get to knowingly walk and protest with terrorist sympathizers and claim you don't support terrorists.

For the same reasons "the very fine people" that marched with neo-Nazis in Charlottsville don't get to claim they don't support neo-Nazis.

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