Moderation Questions for Whiners
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
I don't have a great read on you, but here it goes.
You think that you are smarter than most of the people here. You loathe Trump. You think that most Trump supporters are morons. You think of yourself as skeptical and not easily manipulated by the media. You are not easily offended when it comes to politics and you don't think other people should be either.
And this is pure speculation, but I'm going to guess that you didn't give politics nearly as much thought until Trump was elected.
Solid read across the board.
Point still stands then.
What point? Everone in the world knows that American progressives would not be considered left-wing in many other areas of the world. I have stipulated to this fact a half-dozen times in this forum. No one needs to be educated on this point.
When you describe a soft lib as "very left" you then create the problem of running out of adjectives to describe the actual left.
When you describe a soft lib as "very left" you then run into the problem of running out of adjectives to describe the actual left.
First, I described his social media feed as very left leaning, not him.
Describing Gorgo's social media feed as "very left-leaning" (admittedly by U.S. standards) doesn't in any way make it difficult for me to describe the political views of Frantz Fanon.
Leftists, libtards. Who cares? They are all delusional nutjobs. It's a distinction without a difference in my book.
Leftists, libtards. Who cares? They are all delusional nutjobs. It's a distinction without a difference in my book.
BJ,
I know that people have a need to express themselves, but rather than post here, you should just pick a fancy-colored crayon from your big box and use it to write your thoughts on a piece of paper.
Liberals still believe there are sides. Leftists know it’s all a ruse to distract us from the class wars.
I don't have a great read on you, but here it goes.
You think that you are smarter than most of the people here. You loathe Trump. You think that most Trump supporters are morons. You think of yourself as skeptical and not easily manipulated by the media. You are not easily offended when it comes to politics and you don't think other people should be either.
And this is pure speculation, but I'm going to guess that you didn't give politics nearly as much thought until Trump was elected.
I think you are going a little easy on our new mod.
What point? Everone in the world knows that American progressives would not be considered left-wing in many other areas of the world. I have stipulated to this fact a half-dozen times in this forum. No one needs to be educated on this point.
I see this point often. As a heuristic to cover the differences between American and Western European politics (and let us be honest, western European politics is what we are comparing it to) it is okay, because it at least illuminates that there is often a stark difference.
But if we go just a tiny bit deeper, it becomes a bit lacking. The main issue that it fails to catch who you would support politically if you moved across the pond and became a citizen. That is really a more interesting point of discussion than where your national political party falls on the political spectrum in another country.
I think plenty of the American liberals on here would become social democrats. Not all of them, but I don't think all the American conservatives and MAGA-supporters would necessarily end up in conservative or right-wing parties either. When there are more parties, it often boils down to which issues are the most important to you.
But even ideological comparisons straight up are not all that helpful. Didace' case really displays why; voting is about more than which political platform appeals the most to you. It also about politicians behind them.
Lastly, ideological differences between regions often have historical and practical reasons behind them. Conservatives in Switzerland have little interest in re-introducing the death penalty, but if you look for people in US politics with similar grievances and reasoning for their platform, you'd find no interest in abolishing it.
social democrats are liberals. and sometimes, like in the case of Baerbock they are just Nazis.
What point? Everone in the world knows that American progressives would not be considered left-wing in many other areas of the world. I have stipulated to this fact a half-dozen times in this forum. No one needs to be educated on this point.
Everyone needs to be educated on this.
It's probably one of the most important points there is.
When you describe a soft lib as "very left" you then create the problem of running out of adjectives to describe the actual left.
The left-right paradigm is vague. It changes with time, and a lot of politics can't really be defined on a two-dimensional line anyway. Too many varieties. Some centrists aren't actually centrist. They may be in the middle of some issues (ban semiautomatic firearms, background checks, etc.) or they may hold a left-wing view (ban all firearms) and lean right on economic issues. Even more precise terms like MAGA Republican and woke liberal get misused and will ultimately be used as insults. There's "very left" like Victor, and then there's "very left" on culture war stuff, and all the other varieties.
You love to pop in a couple times a month and point out posts you dont like that much from people you don't think highly of and that applies to the moderation but you don't contribute anything or offer anything up thus insulating yourself from the criticism. This doesn't make you superior, it actually makes you an energy leech
