Moderation Questions

i have no problem with her moderation, which seems fine and good, except for her decision to ban mets and then tell him he needs to grovel if he wants a chance at a return, which was very obviously motivated in part* by personal factors

*eta in part, as i'm not claiming he isnt a giant pain in the arse. he obviously is. but at least half of politics regs are pains in the arse

When I took over the moderation of the I/P thread, I took it upon myself to personally reach out to Mets to address any unresolved issues. These were my messages (I will not post his replies).

[QUOTE=Crossnerd]Hey again,

So it looks like I’m going to be tending the I/P thread going forward, and before I reopen the thread I was hoping to get some feedback from certain posters, you among them.

What issues do you have with the thread in its current state, and what would you like to be done differently? I’d like your thoughts.

Thanks!

Jenn[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Crossnerd]Bill,

I don't want to rehash the past, and I apologize if you feel that I've been singling you out in that thread. From my perspective, your opinion is simply the most opposed to my own, and that will inevitably lead to more comments. Also you post a lot, so there are more opportunities to respond. But regardless of our differing views, you have nothing to worry about in terms of bias against you with regard to moderating. Thats not my style, and I think you know that from our history. I have always strived to be painstakingly fair, all forms of justice are very important to me, and that includes my relationships with people that maybe clash with me. I will always be fair with you, Bill.

Ideally, going forward I'd like you to come to me directly with issues rather than losing control in the thread, and I want you to trust me that I will at the minimum hear you out. You might not always agree with how I decide to deal with things, but there needs to be a baseline level of mutual respect between us.

I agree that the imagery was too graphic, and in the future graphic images will need to be spoilered and marked with a trigger warning of what is inside. We are also going to be pulling back on editorializing each other's intentions. So your points are noted and I plan to include new guidelines to address them. If there is anything else you think of, please message me.

I'm still speaking to a few other people behind the scenes, but I plan to reopen the I/P thread either later tonight or tomorrow morning once we have new guidelines posted in the thread. Again, please feel free to reach out with any other concerns or thoughts. The goal is to keep the thread open and readable for everyone, so any help is appreciated.

😀

Jenn[/QUOTE]

Furthermore, the first person to receive a timeout and the first person to receive a ban in the I/P thread under my moderation were posters who insulted Mets. If anything, I have treated Mets with special consideration , as evidenced above.

I understand that Boids still needs to work on his acceptance of the situation as it is now vs where it was 15 years ago or whatever, but my personal integrity is important to me and I’ve done my best to treat Mets with fairness and respect.

For the fifth time, Mets does not need to grovel. He doesn’t even need to apologize. But he does need to *change his behavior*.

When did the bolded happen?

Actions speak louder than words

The fairest thing you could do would be to leave the I/P thread alone

how does he demonstrate that. what are the practical steps.

Strange fantasy world you are living in.

how many times does she have to say that just needs mets to follow the rules that apply to everyone. no grovelling, just follow the rules. how hard is that? how hard is that to understand? defending the honour of the most mediocre poster that the internet ever produced is such a bizarre use of the finite time we have on this planet / hill to die on. get a hobby

We’ve already been over this and he is more than aware of them.

ok and posting 69 thousand and 8 times on a forum is also a bizarre use of time, we're all in the same plague pits here pal

Crossnerd was brought in specifically to mod the I/P thread because it was generating a lot of inappropriate posts (with post reports and complaints) and no one else wanted to spend the time necessary to keep up with it.

It's funny because it's 100% plausible that back in the day xnerd said something about mets that crossed a line and could reasonably call into doubt her impartiality as a mod. But BOIDS is so casually evasive and dishonest about the whole affair that it's impossible to take the complaint seriously at any level. Like, just telling the truth ought to help your case, mate.

Getting people to admit they were wrong on the internet is a death sentence.

I disagreed with Mets and would like to have him back, but since nobody else will moderate the IP thread, we have to abide by crossnerd's call.

That Mets managed to get perm'd before Victor in that thread is a miracle of science and religion

Oh I could be wrong. I’m speaking mostly in hyperbole as they say

Mets is a teacher and should be given the benefit of a doubt.

My brother in Christ, the word you're looking for is "bullshit". That is what they say.

You’ve made 69000 shitposts on a dead forum basically talking to nobody. Get a grip lmao

And despite all of the campaigning from you and BGP

Victor listens to me when I ask him to stop.

CN is behooving the lord's duty babysitting the Middle East thread. The aegis runs strong with many of the posters.

I’d like to see the fascist pig post personally. Anyone have receipts

There is no such post.

There is however this post from 4-22-24: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...

I’d rather be called a pig than a worm. Pigs gift you bacon when you’ve been good. Worms are just disgusting vile things.

I knew you were five-o!

Right, to me that is the issue. You have people in the thread who have referred to Jews as Nazis, characterized them as people who use dogs to commit rape, baby killers and worse. I didn’t agree with or particularly care for Mets posts, but banning him clearly isn’t due to some sort of standard of behavior in that thread. The result of this sort of suppression is just that fewer and fewer people are going to be comfortable posting on this forum.

Didn’t you see Superbad?

I’m not a cop but I do hang out with them.

I’m just saying I don’t think a mod that makes those comments should be modding Mets’ posts. That’s all basically.

Free Mets 2024