Moderation Questions

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Clearly that is directed at the IDF and not anyone on this forum.

There's nothing disingenuous about it, I provided precisely what you asked for, without judgement. Given the context, it would appear that Mets is part of the target, but it's rather a vague statement so I really couldn't say for sure.

Edit to add: Cool ninja edit.

no its directed at the IDF and the people actually shooting kids as the recent Guardian article just illustrated. its extremely disingenuous and in bad faith.

Mason's vision for 2p2 was discourse with a little bit of fun. I find inflammatory language such as 'baby murderers' etc. to be extremely off-putting.

I actually stopped reading the thread because of such word violence. Maybe I'm a bit of a wimp, but I am surely not alone.

Victor, I have no issues with you but come on friend. You know the whole “baby killers” thing was a big issue for everyone and definitely was a big factor in why KS gave you a month off.

I see that you made that post a few days before I took over moderating that thread. I did have to specify in the new rules that those terms were no longer acceptable.

I will give you credit where it is due that you have stopped doing that for the most part, with a few hiccups, and I appreciate you making that one less thing I have to deal with. But it definitely was a thing at one point…

That may well be, which is, as I said, why I provided the quote with no judgement. But it definitely isn't especially clear, so I could see someone taking it that way, especially with the extra context crossnerd has now added.

She felt this way based on just words from an anonymous poster on an internet forum? I'm very concerned with how she deals with real life issues. I hope she is feeling better but this is not normal.

I didnt call people on this forum baby killers. I called the IDF baby killers. I said the some people on this forum supported it.

and this was from a long time ago and I stopped. but I am not gonna sit here and let the likes of chillrob lie about me.

Yes, I agree with you that you were directing the comments at the Israeli government, and that you have stopped doing it. You’ve been cooperative with me, and you’ve never given me a hard time about me moderating you.

I am just clarifying that there were contentious debates in the past over the usage of that language.

It's a shame that we live in such an uptight world.

I find it hard to believe anybody on this forum supports killing babies. That being said, I think you should be able to say that if that's what you believe. I couldn't imagine being offended by someone calling me something I'm not. I would simply correct them. I certainly wouldn't report them.

This is how I feel when they call me antisemitic

You can’t call people who kill babies, baby killers?

No! That's mean and you might hurt their feelings.

Sometime around the 31st of May, 2021.

You’re not allowed to say anything in this forum if it is the opposite view of what the mods believe in. I was temp banned a while back for giving my political opinion…in the political forum [emoji2357]
And it’s not like I was just randomly saying something. Someone asked me for my specific political opinion, I answered them with said specific political opinion(in the politics forum) and was banned for having that opinion.
This site and the way it is moderated is a complete joke and is why it will continue to slowly die instead of grow and gain new members.

I would say this is mostly correct. I don't recall Victor saying that people on the forum were baby killers. I do recall him saying repeatedly that various people on the forum were supportive of, or even gleeful about, babies being killed.

I'll leave it to others to decide how meaningful a distinction that is.

I would be shocked if CN, ganstaman, or KS held the same views as, say, housenuts.

I share this perspective.

I'll just add that the distinction was not enough to avoid some really serious personal offense to some of our Jewish posters, and it was just generally too inflammatory a claim, regardless of its veracity, for the conversations to continue in that thread. I made the decision to moderate it not based on my own personal views, but what I considered to be best for the forum as a whole. Precise language is now a requirement for posting in that thread.

given that the un said they've been looking into it since oct./23 and haven't been to find any evidence of a single sexual assault occurring, you might want to add referring to palestinians or hamas as rapists to the list of no-nos. call me crazy, but i feel like wholly unsubstantiated claims of sexual assault are more inflammatory and cause more offense than accurate descriptions of this ongoing genocide

72off, I have at least twice given an answer to the reasons I will allow credible claims of rape and sexual violence, and my reasoning, which I cited both times, is based both in social science and women’s history.

Do any of you ever consider for even a moment the amount of effort and work I have so far put into that thread? I don’t know what more you could ask for- I’ve been transparent, honest, egalitarian, thoughtful.

It’s been two months and it’s already killed all the joy I had in posting here. Give it a rest for a bit. I’m sincerely asking.

This thread is back open. Please try to be nice.

Hi Crossnerd. Hope your Saturday is just swell.

It seems a little unfair of 2p2 admin to put you in the position of policing the Middle East thread by yourself. I know I wouldn't want to be in that position.