Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
oh you think its horrible but that doesnt stop you from blaming the victims and making snarky comments implying they deserve it and shouldnt fight back. just accept it. like Bobby Knight said amirite.
1. Yes I think it is horrible and have said so many times in this forum.
2. I'm not blaming the victims; I'm blaming the leaders of the victims for starting a war that was almost certainly unwinnable.
3. Of course the victims don't deserve what's happening to them. The victims have two enemies to deal with: the IDF and their own leaders.
4. Actually, I don't recommend 'fighting back' when you're majorly outgunned and outmanned. That's what's known as a Suicide Mission. Sane leaders surrender in that situation.
5. One last question: Are the Gazans better off now than they were before 10/7? Given that 'hindsight is always right', do you believe that the Hamas leaders made the right decision to attack on 10/7?
No it's not
In checkraisefolds imagination anything has happened if it furthers his narrative.
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This seems like an example of Vic not doing the thing you claimed he was doing.
He said that Hamas being freedom fighters and October 7 being a revolutionary act was the same as saying the sky is blue.
I know ******s like you struggle with analogy but that might be the easiest analogy to understand
right, and I was more ambivalent about it on Oct 7th, which was the setting that you presented in your hypothetical. theres a lot more information now than there was then, which shapes my opinion.
right, and I was more ambivalent about it on Oct 7th, which was the setting that you presented in your hypothetical. theres a lot more information now than there was then, which shapes my opinion.
What additional information? I assume that you expected Israeli leadership (and the rest of the world) to respond in much the way it did.
Now see, this is a much better way to back up your claim.
A little homophobic for 2025, but you come from a different era, I understand.
Both of those were expressing the exact same/similar sentiment to anyone with above 1st grade level reading comprehension. Oct 7th was based and Hamas are freedom fighters. It’s like saying the sky is blue for Victor.
And just in case you have trouble with English, saying the sky is blue means saying something obvious. So victor is saying that saying Oct 7th was based and Hamas rocks is like saying the sky is blue ie it’s very obvious.
What additional information? I assume that you expected Israeli leadership (and the rest of the world) to respond in much the way it did.
you dont remember all of the misinformation on Oct 7th? beheaded babies, mass rape, burning people alive, tons of fake videos of slaughtered civilians (many from other conflicts like Syria),the extent of the Hannibal directive.
I am much more indoctrinated then than I am now and while all of those lies seemed absurd at the time, I wasnt ready to completely write them off.
and no, I didnt think Israel would murder millions of people and "turn Gaza into a parking log". in fact, for months they claimed the werent going to do that and everyone paying attention was like "umm it really looks like you are doing genocide." I mean ffs, dont you guys remember when they told everyone to go to Rafah and that they would be allowed to go back home soon?
and no, I didnt think Israel would murder millions of people and "turn Gaza into a parking log". in fact, for months they claimed the werent going to do that and everyone paying attention was like "umm it really looks like you are doing genocide." I mean ffs, dont you guys remember when they told everyone to go to Rafah and that they would be allowed to go back home soon?
We aren't talking about what Israel said or what other people expected. We are talking about what you expected. Here is what you said 11 months before the October 7 attack:
Perhaps not technically a false flag since Hamas is a separate entity with its own motivations.
It's just also been funded and supported by Israel and they knew about the attack in advance.
This post is very bad faith and conspiratorial.
First off, Israel just facilitated Qatar money going to Hamas. It didnÂ’t fund anything. Although i am sure Jews are happy you and so many others are (erroneously in this case) pushing back against stereotypes of Jews being cheap.
Second, Israel and the US (and many other nations) previously supporting Islamic extremism for ulterior motives,
isnÂ’t the gotcha you seem to think it is.
It isn’t a good look, but ultimately is it doesn’t absolve the people in these groups of moral culpability. The thousands of Hamas members and “civilians” who participated in 10/7 are ultimately responsible for their own actions.
If anything, you could argue it is Israel moral responsibility to get rid of Hamas (and the US responsibility to get rid of ISIS) because of previous support for these monsters.
Third, them “knowing about the attack in advance” is conspiratorial bad faith word play. It is known Israel received general intelligence Hamas was up to something, that they discounted. But that is a far cry from “knowing about the attack in advance”.
We aren't talking about what Israel said or what other people expected. We are talking about what you expected. Here is what you said 11 months before the October 7 attack:
You gotta admit, I have good instincts
What's that saying about leftists being cursed for being right before anyone else?
