Moderation Questions

How was Sam Harris ever on the "alt-right"?

Personally, I'm not really into the gym.

Defund ICE.

Lol

I’ll be sure to bring up your concerns at the next antifa meeting this weekend

I think it’s bad faith to “ironically” support defund the police to defend a guy that was actually supporting it.

But I know that the people trying to dogpile by saying it are as impotent as the guy in the meme above. “haha you care about stuff” is only funny to people who can’t seriously defend their views.

Defund the Police (in Coordi's neighborhood)!

Coordi can tell us how it works out.

While I do think you are taking Bryces comment way too personally I also think there is a clear point of diminishing returns on police funding and there is nothing wrong with analyzing that. If that point is a number of heads per capita, a number of heads per crime rate, or a force for a town of 12,000 owning multiple bazookas I can't say.

And while I think the portion of "defund the police" who think we should abolish police forcers are objectively dumb, I also think that portion is objectively small

Trump policies have slashed funding to local law enforcement agencies all over the country. At least a billion dollars worth.

We shall see how it goes

I agree, but it’s similar to the laffer curve. It’s correct that there is a point at which you actually have a diminishing return on tax collection once you set it too high, but the point at which it’s too high is way higher than conservatives claim it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_cur...

And empirical analysis proves that it’s way higher than what conservatives claim it is.

So I would analogize this to police funding. There is a point of diminishing returns but there’s no evidence that we have reached that in major cities or even small towns and plenty of evidence that we haven’t reached it, including just looking at the towns that remove police funding compared to those that don’t.

Anyway I didn’t take the comments personally, although I can’t prove that. I just don’t like the tactic itself of running off to another thread and complaining about my posting after refusing to engage. Maybe I sound harsh but it’s to hammer the point home that I was very charitable to him in the other thread and could have been a lot more of a dick, because frankly his arguments were just embarassing.

I suspect it won't go well at all.

And Trump will blame the Dems.

8th and 9th grade were middle school grades and middle schools have playgrounds

Maybe this video is AI

I feel like you guys are so close to joining my side of ‘mockery over debate’

So. So. So very close

now we're just arguing semantics

whether or not you disagree with my stance, you understand my stance that as it was told, it deeply implied younger children, what you're doing is posting the maximum possible age and not understanding that you're proving my point and that the heart of the bell curve is much, much younger

this is like i asked how old your cousin was and you said "over 20" and then when I guessed 24 you then say "he's actually in his 80s you dum dum" and then you claw at my eyes

I think it all depends on those learned behaviors, though. I’ve only personally witnessed racial slurs as young as 4th grade, but I wouldn’t be surprised at it happening earlier. I’m sure location plays a lot into it.

Whether or not it’s “actual” racism or adult mimicry is probably debatable. But, not really a productive argument, as the end result is the same.

Y'all really need to learn to stop universalizing your personal childhood experiences.

I said the same earlier about experiences in general. I always use disclaimers as such.

We hiked Mt Sherman today. Some brutal wind on a ridge towards the summit but otherwise nice day to be out.

It's a forum filled with what seems like a fair amount of middle-class and middle-aged people with time on their hands. It would be surprising if it didn't have a lot of people into exercise.

I don't see a lot of people talking about their gains, more people that like to talk about what they do to keep fit / become fitter. Perhaps that is for some just a subtle way to humble-brag for social capital, but who cares. It beats articles and influencers harping about fitness any day of the week. As long as it isn't obsessive, I think it is great when people take pride in bettering themselves physically, intellectually and mentally and interesting to hear how they do it.

First 14er? Did you get to the summit?

It is my first 14er and yes I summited.

I had tried to do Mt Shavano in 2016 or 2017 and made it to like 13,600* and I got to a ridge before the top and the wind was awful and I decided that it wasn't worth it. Learning now that there is always going to be some awful wind and that you just behave to accept that

What also helped was that I was hiking along with other people. I'm probably going to do Quandary very soon. I would have done Democrat but the road leading to the trailhead is apparently closed until mid-November.

Dog is a natural born mountain climber. She did great yesterday. A few other dogs out there as well and maybe I came across 20 other hikers.

*I've climbed higher up to over 15,000 ft in Colombia but this is the highest I've been in the US

Hey, great to see you being able to explore the wilderness very freely in dog oppressive Colorado.

Objectively, your dog is untrained and to people who don't know you or your dog, her size, playful energy and wolf-like appearance can be intimidating or misconstrued as aggression.

So yeah, no one wants that mangy mutt running around tables in a restaurant, shedding its fur into everyone's dish as you order your tacos or whatever in flipflops. Should have gotten a docile shih tzu if you wanted to do that.

So what? Living in the world means having to deal with dogs.

Dogs, death, and taxes.

There is no right to not have dogs around.

I mean, of all the places he posted so far with his dog, this one is by far the most appropriate… I’d let my dog off her lead once we reached actual wilderness sometimes too but only once it felt genuinely safe for everyone.

Debbie Downer gif