Israel / Iran thread
Seems like this conflict is not going to end anytime soon and is worthy of its own thread.
Iran urges Trump to make Israel halt war
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/i...
why did oil no increase in price in future markets for August (it just rolled from July) today?
the week end was less intense than markets thought?
I really don't understand this and I am glad I didn't trade it.
if someone had given me a list of the event during the week end I would have thought oil would have surged today.
but it didn't so my model must be wrong. but where?
why did oil no increase in price in future markets for August (it just rolled from July) today?
the week end was less intense than markets thought?
I really don't understand this and I am glad I didn't trade it.
if someone had given me a lost of the event sdurong the week end I would have thought oil would have surged today.
but it didn't so my model must be wrong. but where?
I don't really know. But if I had to guess, the main reason for an oil price spike would be the risk of Iran shutting down the Strait of Hormuz, and since Israel seems to have air superiority, maybe they figure that isn't likely, even if they want to?
Seems like Iran is ****ed. The current Israeli right aren’t ones to back down.
Looking somewhat possible that we (U.S.) are going to bomb Iran.
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This is a long video, but the TLDR is that the US has to be already providing tanker support for the Israelis. The guy on the right planned the US tanker operations for the 2003 Iraq invasion. Fueling jets is different than bombing, but the US is already directly involved.
lets watch that consent get manufactured. in a few days or weeks these numbers will be close to even.
This is a long video, but the TLDR is that the US has to be already providing tanker support for the Israelis. The guy on the right planned the US tanker operations for the 2003 Iraq invasion. Fueling jets is different than bombing, but the US is already directly involved.
Didn't Iran say they'd strike at any US/UK/French targets in the ME that gave Israel support?
This is a long video, but the TLDR is that the US has to be already providing tanker support for the Israelis. The guy on the right planned the US tanker operations for the 2003 Iraq invasion. Fueling jets is different than bombing, but the US is already directly involved.
It's a theory, but the US only admits to assisting in Israel's air defence. The Israeli tanker fleet is small (seven aircraft, six reportedly operational), so it used to be said that they couldn't mount a major strike on Iran. But their modified F-35s are claimed to be capable of operating over Iran without refuelling. (Though they might not have much loiter time once there.) And their F-16s, with conformal and pylon tanks and light weapon loads -- they have been pictured taking off with that fit in the last few days -- may also have the necessary range. (The Israelis have had a long time to plan for this.) Which would just leave the F-15s, with the heavy weapon loads, needing tanker support, and they will also have conformal and pylon tanks, reducing the number and duration of refuelling slots for each fighter. Even so, the tanker fleet must be stretched, and they're old aircraft, and if just one goes tech it would become difficult.
The USAF moved 28 tankers from the US to Europe (Germany, Spain, Italy, the UK and Greece) on Sunday, but these are probably being positioned in case the president decides on direct US action. Tankers already in theatre would be enough to support Israel, if required and covertly permitted. Hegseth says he is moving assets to Central Command covering the Middle East. Twelve F-35s have left Lakenheath, England, with tanker support, going wherever, and twelve F-22s are reportedly moving somewhere from Langley, Va. That's not a whole lot in US military terms and Trump still seems cautious at the moment.
America will get involved, you will see a repetition of Iraq, it will be longer and costlier, Iran and the entire middle east will be a mess, completely de-stabilized.
Other countries, you know who, will possibly exploit this shifted focus to move their own agendas faster.
It may be a prosperous period in other parts of the world, who knows. 2003-07 was very nice for a lot of emerging markets.
Trump says he knows where Khamenei is and could easily kill him, but won't unless Iran attacks US bases. (The US likes to use RAF Akrotiri on Cyprus, which the Iranians have threatened to attack, presumably with ballistic missiles we couldn't intercept, but they may think twice about that.) On the other hand Trump is demanding Iran's 'unconditional surrender,' but the regime probably isn't yet at a point to consider that, so it's just Trump saying things.
wild rumors circulating including rumors about a "soft coup" by the militaries, which sources are you guys using to keep informed in real time?
why dont you show your sources first Lucianno
Trump says he knows where Khamenei is and could easily kill him, but won't unless Iran attacks US bases. (The US likes to use RAF Akrotiri on Cyprus, which the Iranians have threatened to attack, presumably with ballistic missiles we couldn't intercept, but they may think twice about that.) On the other hand Trump is demanding Iran's 'unconditional surrender,' but the regime pr
Prior to that reports were that Iran was willing to agree to a cease-fire provided they were allowed to retaliate against Israel for their attack with the agreement that Israel wouldn't retaliate back for their retaliation. Seriously.
The only bargaining chip Iran has left is their nuclear program. Their military has been completely overrun and I don't think many people are really afraid of the big, bad jihad. So surrendering their nuclear program is really all the have left but I doubt they will. They've already suffered a complete loss of face with all this and that would be even worse. On the other side, while nice, I don't think a regime change is a super high priority. Destroying Iran's nuclear program is probably winning enough. I'm thinking it will drag on to that end, even with the US staying out of it. There's zero chance Israel doesn't have a work around for the lack of B-52s. Same with the Saudis; maybe even some sort of joint program that wasn't reliant on US support.
(Kill!)
just like Yemen is completely overrun
