Super Bowl 58: #3 Kansas City Chiefs vs #1 San Francisco 49ers (-1)
Kansas City Chiefs: 11-6, AFC West Champion
WC: 26-7 v Miami
Divisional: 27-24 @ Buffalo
Conference: 17-10 @ Baltimore
Super Bowl Record: 3-2
Last Appearance: Super Bowl 57 (38-35 W v Philadelphia)
How they got here:
If you followed along Kansas City's offense has done everything imaginable to ruin this for Kermit and the Swifties. So many drops, Toney lining up offsides to force them to play on the road, despite an incredible defense this really seemed like the year Kansas City was finally going to be not remotely close to the best team in the AFC. Then they get into the playoffs and put in some ****ing work. Mahomes scored 14 points in the first 2 drives, a field goal since and that was good enough to beat the ****ing Ravens at home. Pretty eye-opening no matter how you look at it.
Mahomes played on the road in the playoffs for the first time in his career (which in it of itself is an insane stat for a guy who is now playing in his 4th Super Bowl) and they put in work. They played on the road for the second time in his career. And they put in work. Patrick Mahomes remains the only active NFL player with equity to go down as the greatest to ever play.
San Francisco 49ers: 12-5, NFC West Champion
WC: Bye
Divisional: 24-21 v Green Bay
Conference: 34-31 v Detroit
Super Bowl Record: 5-2
Last Appearance: Super Bowl 54 (31-20 L v Kansas City)
Last Win: Super Bowl 29 (49-26 v San Diego)
How they got here:
Holy ****ing ****.
The Niners started the season 5-0 and in doing so looked like a generationally dominant team that was going to run away with the NFL.
Then they lost Trent and Deebo, lost 3 straight and looked like total ass doing so causing everyone to assume they were frauds.
Then they won 6 straight and in doing so looked like a generationally dominant team and Brock ****ing Purdy was the runaway betting favorite to win the MVP.
Then Christmas happened.
But all's well that ends well and they made the playoffs as the #1 seed.
Then the Green Bay game happened.
For 50 minutes Bork played like I would and the Niners looked finished. Then he pulled a hell of a comeback out of his ass and they won.
Then the Detroit game happened.
I literally just watched this game a couple hours ago and I still can't explain to you what happened and how except that somehow someway the Niners won. And that's cool!
What makes this Super Bowl so compelling
I can see why people hate both of these franchises for a thousand different reasons, but brace yourself for what will be the most watched televised sporting event (possibly most watched television event of any kind) in American history. And it probably lives up to that. Obviously the Swift element is...a thing. And we are going to have 2 weeks of lead-up for that which will be...a thing. But put that aside for a second and there are stories galore.
Whatever you think of Brock Purdy, last year he was the last pick of the draft. This year he is starting in the Super Bowl. Could he have pulled this off if any other team drafted him? Of course not. He fell ass backwards into an epic situation and the Niners fell ass backwards into a lucky draft pick. Trading 3 1s to move up in the most overrated draft in history only to have your franchise QB be some random guy from Iowa who only got the job because the two guys in front of him went down? If this weren't shoved down your throat for the better part of a year and a half it's the coolest story since Kurt Warner, bagman, who only got the job because the two guys in front of him went down. Btw, this time last year the guy broke his ****ing elbow and yet here we are.
Holy **** Patrick Mahomes. 6 years as a starter. Has made it to the AFC Championship 6 times. Has made it to the Super Bowl 4 times. Has a chance to get his 3rd ring and the ****er is only 28. He won't have Brady level longevity but we are witnessing absolute greatness like most of us have not seen in our lifetime. It sucks if you are a fan of any other team but the Chefs but still.
Rumors circulating this may be the last ride of the Walrus. Historically the man is both massive and massively underrated. His work with Philadelphia was both amazing and unlucky. His work with Kansas City has been nothing short of legendary. 4 Super Bowl appearances in 5 years with the potential for 3 wins. I would argue he is the actual greatest coach in NFL history.
Which is a good segue into the modern day iteration of Philadelphia Walrus. Ever since the Falcons implosion I would argue no coach in the NFL has more more criticism despite more success than Kyle Shanahan. The guy is an objectively brilliant offensive mind and in his 7 years as Niners coach they have gone to the NFC Championship 4 of the last 5 years and twice have made it to the Super Bowl. And they did this with QB luminaries like the Womp and the Bork. Kyle schemes like nobody in the NFL can but every time the Niners fell short it all fell on him despite the fact that they overperformed to get where they were in the first place.
This game is a rematch of Super Bowl 54 which still hurts my ****ing soul (Bosa was held on 4th and Tyreek, never believe different). These two teams don't have much history but the history they do have is massive. SB 54 kickstarted the Chiefs dynasty and the failure of Womp to close it kickstarted the Niners neverending hunt for a franchise QB that went from maybe Brady to maybe Rodgers to maybe Lance to....Purdy? Lots of trajectories changed 4 years ago and we come full circle.
Why the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl
This defense is good. Like, really good. Like, really really good. Pacheco has stepped up and the Niners run defense has been horrendous so far in the playoffs. Plus, you know, that Patrick Mahomes guy. Mahomes smoked the Ravens for the first 2 drives on the road which is as comparable as there is to a theoretical matchup with the Niners defense. The Niners have been pretty lax the entire playoffs to start the game and 1. both games are at home and 2. neither teams they faced are as good as Kansas City. There is no margin of error for lazy bullshit and if the Niners bring that energy to the Super Bowl this is going to be a ****ing rout.
Why the 49ers will win the Super Bowl
The Niners have an overwhelming amount of talent. The biggest knock against them is that they could not play from behind and the entire playoffs they had to come from behind. Were they lucky against the Lions? Absolutely. But they proved that even down 17 points they have a QB who is not going to be overwhelmed by the moment and a defense that can still step up when needed even if they failed catastrophically. As good as the Chiefs defense is they have yet to face an offense like the 49ers with as much efficiency and talent across the board as they have. Plus this defense is ludicrously talented. They may take 30 minutes to get jumpstarted but once they do they are locked in.
Gentlemen, let us Super Bowl.
KC 24
SF 21
BORK 31
Chefs 24
SF - 49
KC - 16
The Chiefs were one play away from a 4th and 15 for basically the game. The 9ers could have camped out at the sticks and made it incredibly difficult.
My guess is Chiefs are probably the first team ever to have less than 40% equity in every game and win it all. Still remember that one post I think you made of that guy calling into whatever sports radio station it was talking about how much that win meant after 50ish years. That was a great listen.
Happy last Red Friday of the season to everyone in case that's also a thing in SF.
Probably going to watch that NFL Turning Point video again today. Last time was before the SB last year.
SF 37
Chefs 31
(OT)
If the Chiefs play on the weekend the whole city dresses in red / Chiefs gear on Friday.
What is turning point?
The NFL Turning Point video series. The screenshot in suzzer99's post is from the "How Mahomes Made 3rd & 15 Magic in Super Bowl LIV" video. Unless something crazy happens that play will stay the biggest moment of Mahomes career. Not only because of the situation and throw but because he actually called the play himself.
The NFL doesn't allow for embedding the clip but here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-t6tbS5...
... it's 31-17 niners late in the 4th
Mahomes throws his third TD to Kelce
Andy correctly goes for 2 and they don't get it
Bork fumbles it back to the chefs
Kelce 4th TD and a successful 2pt conv this time sends it to OT
niners win the toss
borking down the field
bork throws a pick
Kittle jars the ball out of the hands of the pick guy
CMC recovers the loose ball and runs it in for the winning TD
37-31 final
that should produce the most interesting game day thread 😃
^ and 3 TD Kelce wins MVP in the losing effort. Taylor cheering wildly at his success, thinking he won, meanwhile Kelce crying while accepting the reward. People think he's crying out of happiness and a proposal is coming in short order. Taylor runs to the field to congratulate him and in a fit of rage, Kelce stunners her.
Fair weather fans seem to all love the chiefs. And even talking heads. Seems sus.
Also sounds like Taylor won't be at the game?
i like the over too, the O/U is only 1 point higher than Balt-KC which was set at 46 and that was in a cold windy outdoor stadium, this game is being played in a dome, SF offense is much more dynamic than Baltimore's and SF defense is not in the same league as Balt's, i dont see either defense being able to stop either offense
^ and 3 TD Kelce wins MVP in the losing effort. Taylor cheering wildly at his success, thinking he won, meanwhile Kelce crying while accepting the reward. People think he's crying out of happiness and a proposal is coming in short order. Taylor runs to the field to congratulate him and in a fit of rage, Kelce stunners her.
+100,000 SE Forum Points
Man isn't this thread great without the occasional ****** posting in it?
I'm still here
Chiefs 27, 9ers 17
Pacheco MVP
took chiefs +2.5 -115 on FD 10 mins ago, think it is a 5050 game and id take chiefs SU if i had to
simplistic but better QB and defense isn't just playing better than SFs lately, it is playing miles and miles better
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It’s kinda wild that after Sunday one of two things will conclusively happen:
1. Walrus will win and firmly plant his flag as the greatest coach of all time
Wat? He'll only be halfway to Bellichick's total. I guess you can say BB's wins were all Brady, but you can similarly credit all of Fat Andy's to Mahomes.
9ers 35
Chefs 13
Wat? He'll only be halfway to Bellichick's total. I guess you can say BB's wins were all Brady, but you can similarly credit all of Fat Andy's to Mahomes.
Andy Reid won 130 regular season games before he even got to KC. Belichick was 36-44 before he went to New England.
No idea who the best coach all time is or even what criteria should be used, but there's only one way to end up with Belichick: sort by Superbowl titles
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