Cardrooms: Everything Bad and How to Make Them Better: Reviews, Comments, and Discussion

Cardrooms: Everything Bad and How to Make Them Better: Reviews, Comments, and Discussion

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I highly recommend this book to anyone working in a poker room, and it will also be of interest to many regular players. Most anyone who reads Cardrooms: Everything Bad will find areas to quibble with, but I think the real benefit of the book is that it can get people to think about areas of poker room management that they might otherwise take for granted. The suggestions for speeding up fills in the “Lammers” chapter is an example of this.

Two chapters that contain advice that is imo essential for the long-term health of poker are the chapters: Excessive Rake and Promotions. In fact, one of my minor quibbles with the book is that, while the Excessive Rake chapter is good, I would have liked to see it go further in depth on just how devastating the effect that high rakes have on the game. Nevertheless, it is great to see Mason’s advice in print, and I hope poker room managers implement it. The Promotions chapter has some great ideas. I particularly liked part 3 of that chapter and it’s suggestion to have jackpots for “steel wheels,” as opposed to Royals as this will both encourage poor play and reward action players who play suited low cards anyway. The book starts with the importance of balancing luck and skill, and the advice in these two chapters would go a long way in fulfilling that goal.

In summary, this is a great and imo needed book for live poker. If poker room managers follow the advice in it, or start thinking about the concepts presented in the book and finding their own ways to satisfy these concepts, B&M poker will be better of for recreational players, grinders, and the longterm bottom lines of the poker rooms themselves.

12 May 2021 at 08:25 PM
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Hey Mason,

I was wondering if your book covers issues faced in the social membership club business model of poker rooms like seen in Texas?

Since they can't rake pots, they charge an hourly seat rental fee plus daily, weekly, monthly or yearly memberships.

Most rooms require an upfront payment of time in advance, with players then having to top-off as they run out of time to continue playing.

Or there's a room like The Lodge, which does postpay, so you aren't bothered while you play, and all the money stays on the table. But at the end of your session you can pay up, or the next time you return you'll have to pay up in order to get seated again.

The Lodges model takes a lot of the extra workload out of time collection, not having to interrupt games and dealers during play, not taking money off the tables. But, it's a double-edged sword because a recreational player who's just gotten stacked for their $300 now has to also pay another $60 or whatever at the front desk on top of it.

Unlike a traditional card room where the rake isn't felt by the fun recreational players, and the pots of winners are where the rake is being taken from, the time-model is obviously more affordable long-term, but is also felt a lot more by the recs, which can impact their staying power in games because they have to pay their fair share AND absorb being a long-term losing player.


by TampaKn1sh

Hey Mason,I was wondering if your book covers issues faced in the social membership club business model of poker rooms like seen in Texas?Since they can't rake pots, they charge an hourly seat rental fee plus daily, weekly, monthly or yearly memberships.Most rooms require an upfront payment of time in advance, with players then having to top-off as they run out of time to conti

No. It doesn't address this stuff. However, many of the ideas in the book, if not all of them, will still apply to poker rooms that operate in this way.


by Mason Malmuth

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