BvB Battle
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NL Holdem 2(BB)
HERO ($188) [VPIP: 29% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.8% | Flop Agg: 42.1% | Turn Agg: 33.8% | River Agg: 36.9% | 3Bet: 11.5% | 4Bet: 14.3% | Cold Call: 9.1% | Hands: 301635]
UTG ($299.27) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
HJ ($292.55) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
CO ($436.18) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
BTN ($189) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
SB ($221.83) [VPIP: 100% | PFR: 100% | AGG: 100% | Flop Agg: 100% | Turn Agg: 100% | River Agg: 100% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 1]
Dealt to Hero: T♦ Q♥
UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Raises To $6, HERO Calls $4
Hero SPR on Flop: [15.17 effective]
Flop ($12): 4♣ 9♣ T♥
SB Bets $5.70 (Rem. Stack: $210.13), HERO Calls $5.70 (Rem. Stack: $176.30)
Turn ($23.40): 4♣ 9♣ T♥ 7♠
SB Bets $22.23 (Rem. Stack: $187.90), HERO Calls $22.23 (Rem. Stack: $154.07)
River ($67.86): 4♣ 9♣ T♥ 7♠ K♦
SB Bets $48.35 (Rem. Stack: $139.55), HERO Raises To $154.07 (allin)
18 Replies
i think the river jam is a very nice find, seems like we have the best blockers possible and considering it's tough to find non-club bluffs seems really good.
think it could be bad if SB isn't going thin enough with value or might give up on missed clubs. for that reason i think a call is fine too, haven't played at these stakes so don't know anything about reg behavior.
Probably best to fold turn
Which better hands fold in your opponent's range?
Perhaps some KQ, but there are very few of them.
I think a call is better than a raise by default.
WP
I think it's pretty rare to see this kind of hand in this line/sizing, could be wrong...
Turn depends also on how often you get barrel otr, if you have slightly profitable river call but you are constantly facing bet otr, turn call might still be -ev. Depends on the exact numbers.
Turn depends also on how often you get barrel otr, if you have slightly profitable river call but you are constantly facing bet otr, turn call might still be -ev. Depends on the exact numbers.
Turn call is always profitable and never a fold because you have a bunch of river exploits vs both a bet and X line but also because they over barrel.
GTO % for B50-B is 47%-51% and regs barrel 55% OTT.
Over barreling is argument for fold.
Wouldn't we prefer to have a hand with more robust equity vs a polarized range? We have so many flushdraws and straightdraws on this turn...
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Both hand classes would be positive EV. If poker worked where I get to choose my hand, I'd rather have T8 yes.
The goal is to get to the river where we print. I'll show you the formulas/data on this river spot when I get it and we can literally prove that even negative EV calls (in a solver) OTT will end being positive EV because of our river exploits.
Because whenever you face river bet even if you have +ev bluff catcher you are getting just the fraction of money you invest ott back.
Let's say you have +3bb call on every river, if opponent is betting river every time turn call loses money. I'm not saying that's the case in this spot, it's just an extream example to illustrate the idea.
Because whenever you face river bet even if you have +ev bluff catcher you are getting just the fraction of money you invest ott back.
Let's say you have +3bb call on every river, if opponent is betting river every time turn call loses money. I'm not saying that's the case in this spot, it's just an extream example to illustrate the idea.
I'm not talking about calling I'm talking about jamming river.
Let's say he folds 3% over MDF
3%(Raise + Bet + Call) so 3% (154.07+ 48.35 + 48.35) = +8.359BB win
You are telling me I have a losing turn call if I can print that OTR?
If you are confident they over fold by that much using this sizing on this board than fine.
