Mohegan Sun (Uncasville, CT)

Yeah, there's historically been a high level of arrogance and favoritism in that room, a significant reason why FW became the better tournament destination for both series and daily events.

While nobody can fault them for being so attractive that many more players than expected showed up to play, the idea that they failed to take care of a significant number of players is troubling.

As far as either casino running series events, don't hold your breath. Management seems disinterested for a variety of reasons. It's a shame, but it is what it is.

The floor/staff (NOT dealers) here are exceptionally rude. They show no care for keeping players coming there, particularly the type of players who we would like to play with.

Casinos hate poker. It brings so little to their bottom line. They would prefer the entire room be emptied and filled with slots.

I was there on Thursday night with a group (not to play poker) and it was insane what I saw in the pit. Half the table games were not operating, and the few blackjack tables going were at a $50 min bet at 5:30pm. It was funny seeing the empty tables at those stakes, when my group of 9 were just itching to gamble on the floor, but couldn't justify that price. They could have had our money, but they didn't seem to want it. We even asked one of the lonely dealers if they could lower the price for us to sit down, and he said no. The entire thing is being driven to slots. I guess I'm just a poor peasant on a rant and not saying anything that anyone on here doesn't know already. P.S. I hate slots with a passion.

Anyone know the # of entries/payout for the New Years tourney?

Almost 1500 entries with $70k up top. They chopped it 6 ways. Mohegan actually sent the results into Hendon Mob:

MS Holiday Hangover Results

Yeah that was cool, was there for the final table and the results also on their Bravo.

Wondering more about the single day tourney they ran on new years day to try to gauge what the MLK day tourney might look like.

Total BS WPT director Matt Savage says the next alternate gets the seat not the player that busts. He goes to the back of the line. Tell them they are arrogant stubborn idiots.

I can't believe the people that run casinos are so dumb that they hate poker. Poker brings in much more money than casinos like to admit. They rake around $150/hr at the tables and pay the dealers less than minimum wage. The poker room also brings in the players wifes to play the slots and everyone patronizes the restaurants. Not to mention the fact that probably about 20% of the poker players are betting on sports while they are there. And the poker players who would normally never go to a casino but do because of poker will inevitably leak out into the pits to chase poker loses or play slots while waiting for a seat or whatever. Poker players give casinos an additional consistent revenue stream that most businesses would love to have.

Mohegan has been like that since Covid. Last I knew it was still only 4 per table. It’s not the pay they worry about, they don’t want to insure anyone. They have very few full time dealers and only schedule part timers on weekends. They must figure it’s cheaper to keep tables closed than it is to have more full timers on staff. And if people are gonna go there during the week, they are gonna play whether the tables are $15 or 50 min.

Edit - my bad I quoted the wrong post.

No one is saying poker rooms dont make money or dont bring in other hidden money in the ways you mention. Thats not the point or why the rooms are more expendable. Its how much LESS they bring in than slots and table games. I once heard a pokerroom manager on a podcast say that theres not a pokerroom in the country that makes more in a day than 3 table games.

I get that theory but in most casinos many slots and table games are not at capacity often. That means that replacing a room with slots is not going to add additional revenue unless the poker room is already losing money. So poker brings in additional revenue and has other ancillary benefits people mentioned.

Details?

Noticed PLO still consistently running daily.
Is there a group of players it runs around? I played this past Wednesday and there were 2 games, must move was far better than the main game.

A scenario came up where a player 1st to act on flop multi way announced " Check raise" Is that binding or considered a check only?
One player called the floor questioning if that was an angle shoot.
Thoughts?

Not binding, table talk. Check only.

Anyone who calls the floor over that is a dolt and a nit who needs to go back to miserable NL to watch paint dry. Shame them. Behavior like this isn’t tolerated at a good PLO game.

Finished your post for you.

Anyone who plays in a PLO game that runs around the same regs is a dope. That is especially so here, at the nearby property, and at TR where some of the cheaters migrated years ago.

Do you play PLO?

Can you expand on your post?

Yes, I play PLO. No I don't play in shady games.

The collusion at PLO is eastern CT is sort of an open secret and needs no embellishment from me.

I can see some soft play and passive play… this sort of thing happens in any game in eastern act when you have old passive regs who’ve played w each other for years. I even started a thread on soft play.

But I’m not sure there’s outright collusion whipsaw or team poker.

Again I’ll ask what you have seen and who did it?

Its rigged bro trust me

Sorry youre not winning at PLO.

Agree with Ethics that this simply isn’t a real problem. Soft play amongst friendly regs in a HU pot does not equal shadiness/collusion. If stuff like that bothers you then PLO simply isn’t for you and you can go be miserable at NL where you belong.

I see two of your posts here just on this page about NL being boring, and like watching paint dry. I've never played live or PLO. Only online NL but I'm located near Monticello and can obviously get to Mohegan Sun easily, too. With how popular PLO has become lately, with things like double board bomb pots, etc, I'm going to spend some time learning and playing it alongside NL.

What is so much better about PLO than NL in your opinion? I've heard that the variance/swings are considerably greater in PLO. Is that one of the things that you like about it? Is it, in general, a more profitable game than NL?

Thanks

It’s a more fun and gambling game where not everyone takes themselves so seriously. It’s always the best game in the room as far as action and atmosphere. You want to sit around in silence and watch regs seat changing the fish and table hopping all night with their backpacks and headphones? Then stay at NL. Otherwise we welcome you to the great game brother.

Most people who are playing poker aren't playing to make a profit. These people divide themselves in two categories. One, there are the people that think they are winning players, but aren't. They'll tell you and themselves that they just have bad luck. Then there are those that understand they aren't going to be crushers and just want to gamble. They'll lean towards PLO.

The variance in PLO is an order of magnitude greater than NLHE. That helps with the gambling, but you need a lot of financial resources (bankroll, income) to stay in for months and years. In a lot of places, these games consume themselves as people go on a downswing and run out of money. For the few that survive, the gambling itch drives them to go to higher stakes, where the variance in absolute dollars will eventually overwhelm their resources.