I am a literal legend of gambling, ask me anything.
What im doing is a gift to this dead site but they will probably lock the thread since they want no traffic or interest.
It's actually depressing seeing some of these guys for 5+ years still putting together a 10-20k package to play a bunch of small event during a series just wasting their lives thinking they have a massive edge when they're really just hoping to get absurdly lucky.
Someone playing them for fun totally different story.
even if you give these small stakes "tourney pros" a 30% roi (which is probably double what they can really achieve) they are making $150 on a $550 tourney with at least an average 12 hour time sink (some of these 500s go three days til a winner) thats a whopping $12.50 an hour. 1ks which you definitely have to travel and pay travel costs for get you all the way up to $25 an hour!!! Mcdonalds night manager territory!!!
it's not really that mindboggling! most people enjoy playing poker without a boss to report to over serving fast food. some people are addicted to gambling and nobody is addicted to serving McDonald's.
lets be honest - most of these 1/3 guys either live with a spouse that pays the bills or live with their parents. 15/hr or hell even 20-25/hr is dogshit pay - works in a sleepy town in rural America maybe, but where I live that's called being poor. A pro 1/3 player is similar to a pro golfer that shoots 100 - just gotta laugh.
lets be honest - most of these 1/3 guys either live with a spouse that pays the bills or live with their parents. 15/hr or hell even 20-25/hr is dogshit pay - works in a sleepy town in rural America maybe, but where I live that's called being poor. A pro 1/3 player is similar to a pro golfer that shoots 100 - just gotta laugh.
and the part people overlook is its NO FUN being in a crappy card room looking at red and black rectangles for hours on end, it might be fun for a little while, casinos can fool you, but once the scales fall off your eyes its just another ****ing JOB. I had a 9-5 jobs for decades (and made big bank), none of them were worse than the idea of grinding small stakes poker for a living in a dying industry.
even if you give these small stakes "tourney pros" a 30% roi (which is probably double what they can really achieve) they are making $150 on a $550 tourney with at least an average 12 hour time sink (some of these 500s go three days til a winner) thats a whopping $12.50 an hour. 1ks which you definitely have to travel and pay travel costs for get you all the way up to $25 an hour!!! Mcdonalds night manager territory!!!
Exactly my point. And somehow despite being willing and in some cases begging to sell at 1.3 it doesn't dawn on them the putrid hourly and super high variance that comes along with these things. Just an absolute waste of time if you're actually trying to make money from them.
But of course some yokle has to win and 500 other guys just as good as whatever random yokle wins will say "I'm just as good as him that could be me".
They're just chasing that mythical carrot on a stick. Hell I've met people who want to tell me or when brag about their 30-50k scores from 5-10 years ago. A few even bragged about their lol circuit rings. And yet all these time later broke and grinding 300-1k events hoping for another dopamine hit.
Exactly my point. And somehow despite being willing and in some cases begging to sell at 1.3 it doesn't dawn on them the putrid hourly and super high variance that comes along with these things. Just an absolute waste of time if you're actually trying to make money from them.
But of course some yokle has to win and 500 other guys just as good as whatever random yokle wins will say "I'm just as good as him that could be me".
They're just chasing that mythical carrot on a stick. Hell I've met peopl
Tournaments are to dumb breakeven regs what poker in general is to fish. They somehow can't see they are falling for the exact same trap, sucked in by disillusions of skill, never ever ever ever studying or seriously reflecting upon their strategy or honestly calculating their hourly and winrate, and paying rake hoping to spin up their last 2k in the savings account so they can be like their hero on pokergo who has some combination of double their IQ, 20x their work ethic, a lifelong sunrun, or really just better at business and networking than poker.
It's also interesting to see how all these weird pathetic trolls come out of the woodwork trying to provoke limon (successfully). I don't really know what it is about him that makes people so upset. Clearly they are jealous of the attention he is getting on the thread or something because any rational person would simply not click on the thread if they thought it was all bs. He is a character and people take everything he says wayyy too seriously. But I can totally see how he sets up all these home games and sports bets and golf bets given people (for some reason) think he's a total moron and fraud, and then get their money taken because he's miles sharper than they ever thought.
It's also interesting to see how all these weird pathetic trolls come out of the woodwork trying to provoke limon (successfully). I don't really know what it is about him that makes people so upset. Clearly they are jealous of the attention he is getting on the thread or something because any rational person would simply not click on the thread if they thought it was all bs. He is a character and people take everything he says wayyy too seriously. But I can totally see how he sets up all these h
Pretty good analysis. You see that an important part of the bit is actually being much richer smarter and more successful than the morons you’re trolling, that’s what makes it stick. That’s why they freak out. They know in their heart that you are right. You missed one part but I can’t correct you or it ruins the whole thing.
On a totally unrelated note:
and the part people overlook is its NO FUN being in a crappy card room looking at red and black rectangles for hours on end, it might be fun for a little while, casinos can fool you, but once the scales fall off your eyes its just another ****ing JOB. I had a 9-5 jobs for decades (and made big bank), none of them were worse than the idea of grinding small stakes poker for a living in a dying industry.
Agreed - casinos are very depressing filled with a bunch of life losers - not a place you want to spend 25+ hours a week at.
wow you speak for the whole world? and here i though you were just an ignorant fuqtard who cant see that the biden economy is the strongest and fastest growing on the globe. speaking for the whole world must be tiring. go do it somewhere else bitch.
AHAHAHAHA. Why you cursing me though old man, relax
lets be honest - most of these 1/3 guys either live with a spouse that pays the bills or live with their parents. 15/hr or hell even 20-25/hr is dogshit pay - works in a sleepy town in rural America maybe, but where I live that's called being poor. A pro 1/3 player is similar to a pro golfer that shoots 100 - just gotta laugh.
Well ofc anyone who plays 1/3 “professionally” is gonna be poor lol (and I personally wouldn’t necessarily denigrate people just for being poor), but the point was that the misery of grinding 1/3 in a shitty casino all day around a bunch of miserable people is probably still significantly less awful than working at McDonald’s for an equivalent wage
Weird that his post has 5 likes and you, a literal legend of gambling, have to like your own posts to get one like in your own thread.
u r a dumpster fire that ppl just like to point and laugh at.
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Well ofc anyone who plays 1/3 “professionally” is gonna be poor lol (and I personally wouldn’t necessarily denigrate people just for being poor), but the point was that the misery of grinding 1/3 in a shitty casino all day around a bunch of miserable people is probably still significantly less awful than working at McDonald’s for an equivalent wage
if your only other option is working at mcdonalds you have a zero chance of being a winning poker player. at every level it requires decent brain power, enough to get a good office job at worst.
Thread saver. The time I was almost killed by mark k. The course charged him $1600 for repairs!!!!
i think i know who the liberalz are in this linear waste of space
and the part people overlook is its NO FUN being in a crappy card room looking at red and black rectangles for hours on end, it might be fun for a little while, casinos can fool you, but once the scales fall off your eyes its just another ****ing JOB. I had a 9-5 jobs for decades (and made big bank), none of them were worse than the idea of grinding small stakes poker for a living in a dying industry.
This is gold and so true.
Not to mention barely making above the $15 minimum wage with no benefits and in a profession that 99% of people look down at..
Limon,
Can you tell us some stories from your rounder days, when you traveled for work but only to cities with no limit Holdem games?
I do the same for work, but I’m in an industry that is infinitely more gambly than poker, so being a live low stakes winner is beneficial but all my good stories are about drinking/drugs and liaisons with locals. Interested to see if you battled with staying at the table with people that think a straight beats a flush or if you left to party.
What is your opinion on a staked player playing in a game with his backer?
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What do you say to a poker player you see cheating? Ie leaving his bb close to his stack and then scooping them when no one is looking.
Limon,
Can you tell us some stories from your rounder days, when you traveled for work but only to cities with no limit Holdem games?
I do the same for work, but I’m in an industry that is infinitely more gambly than poker, so being a live low stakes winner is beneficial but all my good stories are about drinking/drugs and liaisons with locals. Interested to see if you battled with staying at the table with people that think a straight beats a flush or if you left to party.
I was a credit auditor at the time and so i was in stores early not a lot of partying, at night i wanted to get poker in. That said, when other executives were on the road with me it was always a drunken debacle and i couldn't make it to the casino. the CEO of the company could literally drink 20 rum n cokes and still be the first guy in the office so he tried to destroy everyone at the bar/club when he traveled with us.
The locations where these casinos were generally didn't lend themselves to partying for me at least. shitty sawdust joints in hayward,ca. sandia, nm. lubbock, tx. the palomar and vegas casinos back when there wasn't any daily no limit games and you had to play limit holdem with overs buttons!!!
this was so long ago $1-2-straddle nl was the biggest game going in these places. this tiny handful of casinos were basically the only DAILY NL on the entire west coast!! there wasn't a single NL game in all of los angeles of course 25 years ago uncapped 1-2 ($3 rake cap) was the equivalent of prob 5-5nl+ today. min wage was $5.15 an hour!!! another reason all the threads about playing 1-3 or whatever as a job are so sad, i was trying to get people to play bigger than $1-2, 25 years ago, the thought of playing those stakes today as a job is f'ing insane. that would have been like me playing .25-50 cent as a job in 1998. lolololol
