Should I have folded these two rivers?
What's your opinion about thats two hands:
PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): 127 BB
SB: 85.2 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 677.4 BB
MP: 146.8 BB
CO: 99.4 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 3♦ A♣
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.4 BB, SB calls 2 BB, BB calls 1.4 BB
Flop: (7.2 BB, 3 players) 5♣ 2♥ 4♣
SB checks, BB bets 3.2 BB, Hero raises to 13.2 BB, fold, BB calls 10 BB
Turn: (33.6 BB, 2 players) A♠
BB checks, Hero bets 35 BB, BB calls 35 BB
River: (103.6 BB, 2 players) T♣
BB bets 49.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 49.4 BB
BB shows 7♣ 6♣ (Flush, Ten High)
(Pre 47%, Flop 48%, Turn 30%)
Hero shows 3♦ A♣ (Straight, Five High)
(Pre 53%, Flop 52%, Turn 70%)
BB wins 194 BB
And the other:
PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 200.8 BB
SB: 184.2 BB
BB: 104.2 BB
Hero (UTG): 124.4 BB
MP: 102.2 BB
CO: 164 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♦ Q♥
Hero raises to 2.4 BB, fold, CO calls 2.4 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.4 BB
Flop: (7.6 BB, 3 players) Q♠ 3♦ K♥
BB checks, Hero bets 3.6 BB, CO calls 3.6 BB, BB calls 3.6 BB
Turn: (18.4 BB, 3 players) 2♠
BB checks, Hero bets 25.6 BB, CO calls 25.6 BB, fold
River: (69.6 BB, 2 players) J♣
Hero checks, CO bets 66.8 BB, Hero calls 66.8 BB
CO shows A♠ T♠ (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 62%, Flop 21%, Turn 25%)
Hero mucks K♦ Q♥ (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 38%, Flop 79%, Turn 75%)
CO wins 194.8 BB
7 Replies
No
Hand 1 screams made flush but you get good odds. Hand 2 you beat some value hands and your check might induce some bluffs. The hands that make the straight should have folded to your turn bet, except for specifically ATss (T9ss should probably fold on flop but I guess it could be included). I would call in both instances.
Next time you post hand histories, don't include results.
I would shove myself in both hands since I am not folding and villains are weighted towards showdown value since we have bet massively.
We lose to so few hands in both cases.
If not shoving, then definately betting at least 75%. But I dont mind shoving. What hands that beat us can he have? AT of spades and 33 (which sometime raises the flop). T9 of spades maybe
He flats in the co, which likely means a weaker player and therefor likely to make mistakes.
What hands can he have, that are strong at that we beat? Kx, KJ, occasionally other weaker 2pair. You have the best hand on the river like 80%+ of the time (maybe 90%+), and I think it is a pretty clear value shove/bet.
If not shoving, then definately betting at least 75%. But I dont mind shoving. What hands that beat us can he have? AT of spades and 33 (which sometime raises the flop). T9 of spades maybe
He flats in the co, which likely means a weaker player and therefor likely to make mistakes.
What hands can he have, that are strong at that we beat? Kx, KJ, occasionally other weaker 2pair. You have the best hand on the river like 80%+ of the time (maybe 90%+), and I think it is a pretty clear value shove/bet.
I somehow imagined shoving was much more of an overbet than it is, although I thought I did the math. Agree with your reasoning.
