2023 NFL Regular Season
As a niners fan I have spent this entire offseason in a silent rage
The last 20 years of being a niners fan has been an a
Pats stick with Mayo.
I mean they definitely aren’t a good fit but I think if anything has been made clear it’s that Deshaun got his money and he is not interested in trying
I don’t think there’s a coach who is going to magically unlock the guy
Maybe not. I'm higher than most on Deshaun still having a chance to be a quality QB in the league, but they need to find a coach who can play to his strengths.
Terrible situation he inherited with a terrible ownership structure, he’s never had a franchise QB. He’s got the best win loss % there in 35 years
It's a low bar . But that's why I think he gets at least another year due to their success this season. Had they gone 7-10/8-9 and missed the playoffs, I think he'd for sure be out.
This thread talks about some of his deficiencies on the offensive side of the ball.
Vrabel was COY two years ago. Daboll was last year and followed it up with a bad season. Matt Nagy was COY in 2018. Jason Garrett in 2016. Ron Rivera in 2015. He also won in 2013. Being COY is more about performing above expectation than being a good coach. Sometimes both are true. Harbaugh won in 2019 and McVay in 2017.
Lol pats you kidding me with this?
Yeah I really don't get the hire.
pats wanted miracle whip, get mayo instead
Hiring guys as HC where their only experience is as a positional coach, generally doesn’t work out.
Hiring guys as HC where their only experience is as a positional coach, generally doesn’t work out.
I don't disagree. Sean Payton was back to position coach when the Saints hired him but he had 2 years as OC with the Giants before that. John Harbaugh only had experience as special teams coordinator but at least on paper that's a coordinator position, too.
Patriots are probably an edge case though because they didn't even have a DC under Belichick. Might have made sense to promote Mayo last season when he signed the new contract? FWIW, at least according to media reports the reason why Mayo got that succession plan written in his contract was that he received interview requests from other teams for their HC position.
Certainly a weird thing when you not only have to replace the HC but also the GM, DC and 3 position coaches on defense (Mayo, both Belichick kids). Belichick kinda ran that thing like a family business.
We might also find out with Antonio Pierce.
Do pats not have to do all the interview stuff?
they hired a minority?
I would be more worried about them taking a guy with a defensive background when the teams struggles are on the offensive side of the ball.
From The Athletic:
The condition in the Rooney Rule and anti-tampering policy allows teams to bypass the typical interview process if they establish in writing a succession plan and communicate that with the league before the start of the season. According to a league source, the Patriots did that with Mayo.
Would have been kinda shitty of them not to promote him after they put that succession plan into his contract last year. It's not like his unit underperformed this season or there was any other reason to walk back on that.
I mean that’s all well and good but I’d be surprised if they did that thinking this year was gonna be such a ****ing disaster
A lot was made about how BB’s assistants always failed as coaches and how he and only he can run the ‘Patriot Way’ but considering how less than mediocre he’s been with without Brady the more logical conclusion is the Patriot Way doesn’t work at all unless you have a HOF qb making well below market value for 2 decades
You’re getting the #3 pick and almost 100 million in cap space to overhaul what is decidedly the worst offense in the AFCE in an era where you need offense to be successful. And when you finally make your break from a relic of a time gone by, and a chance to completely reinvent the team, you go with a defensive minded retread of the guy you just showed the door
Cool. Cool cool cool
I still think gayo for mayo even after all these years
Hiring guys as HC where their only experience is as a positional coach, generally doesn’t work out.
I don't disagree. Sean Payton was back to position coach when the Saints hired him but he had 2 years as OC with the Giants before that. John Harbaugh only had experience as special teams coordinator but at least on paper that's a coordinator position, too.
Andy Reid wasn't a coordinator fwiw (not saying he's not the exception to the rule)
Ian Rapoport reporting that Mayo's contract has a stipulation that he's the next Head Coach.
That doesn't mean it's a lock but it means that if they do choose to go with him, they won't need to satisfy Rooney Rule and other procedural requirements.
if it was me, I'd want to appoint a GM first and make a dual commitment to GM/HC but that wouldn't be possible if they go with Mayo
Isn't that remarkable that the guy had a locked in contract for it yet it goes unreported in all the coverage? I say it's a major fail. When you take an assistant of a gonzo coach you are often getting a lightweight version of that former guy and with no head coaching experience. I though Kraft would go big but maybe it was locked in.
Warner unanimous all pro surprised the hell outta me. Felt like he’s sucked (relative to his general fredness anyway)
Career INTs through first 6 seasons:
Manning 110
Marino 103
Elway 96
Favre 93
Brees 82
Brady 78
Josh Allen 78
Would have been kinda shitty of them not to promote him after they put that succession plan into his contract last year. It's not like his unit underperformed this season or there was any other reason to walk back on that.
Plus, imagine if they’d kept a black coach from applying for other HC opportunities by writing his succession plan to the top job into his contract and then gone out and hired a white guy anyway
Isn't that remarkable that the guy had a locked in contract for it yet it goes unreported in all the coverage? I say it's a major fail. When you take an assistant of a gonzo coach you are often getting a lightweight version of that former guy and with no head coaching experience. I though Kraft would go big but maybe it was locked in.
I’d heard Bill Simmons talk about it on a pod during the year so it was out there somewhere, but yep, I never read it anywhere
Plus, imagine if they’d kept a black coach from applying for other HC opportunities by writing his succession plan to the top job into his contract and then gone out and hired a white guy anyway
I'd imagine he wouldn't care the race of the guy they hired instead of him. He would be pissed and I assume would be owed a lot of money from the pats for breaking the contract.
