Another what should I do with AA?

I'm calling and folding if he shoves a Turn that doesn't improve our hand (ie, not a Club or an Ace).

If you had the Aces without a Club I think I'd rip it in on the Flop, but with the club, I'm not stacking off on this flop and this SPR. (That said, we are never folding any Aces on this flop to a single check-raise. But if he rips it in on an offsuit deuce Turn, we really need to lay it down.)

I'd go bigger pf because villain that you've described is not folding often in this spot imo.

I like calling down and never folding turn.

Betting if he checks.

Agree with this

I agree with all this, although probably not the last sentence.

Doesn't seem like AQ would play this way. 77 and 55 fit the pattern of limp/call followed by c/r. Suited ace would also but you block those combos. 98cc, 86cc that a tag player might limp, but we are not pumped about the overall range of sets + combo draws, plus maybe 75s.

Then it's a question of belief whether there are sufficiently many bluff combos in his range to justify continuing. I don't see it based on the description but you're at the table so maybe you can fill in more details on the lag vs tag aspects of villains game.

A related question might be: which hands would you play the way that villain played his hand?

I went through this scenario in the hand. 77 was the only hand I would maybe play this way. Although I would probably lead out. AQ/KQ I would expect a c/c.

He’s a bit looser than me in that I’ve seen him open raise pre with trouble hands like Q10o in EP. Those are hands I might just throw away in EP if off suited. But this hand he limped.

If he's the best player at the table, he's most likely liimp/calling hands like 55 and 77, not AQ or Qx, and if he's l/c'ing suited club broadways, then he's not the best player at the table (we also block FD's). To someone who respects your game after you just opened from EP, I fold here but that's just me.

I'd obviously rather be sitting to this guy's left than to his right, but I think the best spot might be across the table from him (so that we don't get raised out of too many pots preflop). But in general, nice plan overall just attempting to simply avoid him, imo.

I overlimp in preflop but that's my method.

SPR is 7.5 and we offered very good 24+:1 IO preflop so we definitely don't want to stack off postflop, imo. And we also mainly want to get to showdown without getting in stacks. So if I'm comfortable bet/folding, I'd do that. And if I'm not comfortable folding to a raise, I'd check back and ensure I get to showdown. So, as played, I make the fold (which I'd probably do even without the Ac flush blocker which greatly reduces his semi-bluffs).

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I’ve seen him there plenty. He probably puts in at least 40 hrs a week. At the time of this hand we have been playing and conversing about 6 hrs. So I felt I had a pretty good understanding of him.

Super weird play, imo. I was just going to post that no good player is going to overplay TP here. But I suppose turning a hand into a bluff that also has equity if called can't be horrendous?

But mostly, if we're a little unsure what to do when checkraised / stacks are threatened, I just lean to checking and getting on my way to showdown.

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Sounds about right. His hand was my first thought and the reason I call and rarely fold. You'll get so much info on turn.

He played it well post flop. Not sure about his pre-flop play (so weak), but it worked.

(Please don't ever check the flop.)

Having seen results, and processed this absolute car crash of a hand from both players, might I politely enquire where (and when) you both play?

Don't fold flop when there are no 2 pair combos or straights and when your opponent shouldn't ever have top set.

Are we convinced that this check-raise was a bluff then? It feels closer to value than a bluff to me,. although what it feels more than anything is just mighty confused.

No way that was intended as a bluff. I think he was going for value but hero talking about a set gave him the opening to sell it as a "play"

Yeh, I don't care what V said there's no chance he played this hand this way as a bluff. Although it's a pretty stupid way to play vs. JJ or whatever, it is just terrible as a bluff.
I mean I'd have zero x/r on this board from this position anyway, even if it went open/3bet, just because the only value we can ever have is 77/55 and 9c8c is about our only draw.

No idea what he was doing preflop, maybe he's drunk or off his game or something. Would seriously reevaluate your "good reg" read, and don't be afraid of call down any good pair to win now.

This, but he was talking about the other villain who folded otb.

When he's described as a good player, I assumed he would never l/c AQ, that would be horrible for a good player, but still, in a 3 way pot and a c/r of that size, one pair hands are usually smoked anyway (to good or bad players, with no reads or info about them taking bluffing lines like this, especially against players who rasie from EP and have all the over pairs and AQ in their range).

You need to call the flop, but I would be fine calling the flop to fold a turn Jam, there just aren’t enough bluffs in his range. As we can see, he wasn’t bluffing here…he just happened to have one of the few (and unlikely) value hands we were beating.

If I called flop I'm almost always calling the turn too.

I like how everyone wanted to call flop and fold turn, except me and Java.

I'm NEVER calling the flop planning to fold to another bet that's literally ludicrous to say the least, and I'm always surprised at how many times I see good players call a large raise in this spot only to fold to a turn bet (which PB2K knew was imminent), it's literally throwing your money away imho. That raise is a big value raise like 87.6% of the time imebtjm.

I was pretty sure at the time that my decision needed to made on the flop. He was ripping any turn card at that point.

This is extremely good thinking, to fly ahead of the airplane because you should already know what you're gonna do ott before even acting otf.