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NL Holdem 2(BB)
HERO ($232.38) [VPIP: 28.9% | PFR: 24.1% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 41.9% | Turn Agg: 33.8% | River Agg: 36.9% | 3Bet: 11.6% | 4Bet: 14.2% | Hands: 306201]
BTN ($348.42) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
SB ($33.22) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
BB ($518.40) [VPIP: 100% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 66.7% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 100% | River Agg: 100% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 100% | Hands: 1]
UTG ($236.05) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
HJ ($321.04) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
Dealt to Hero: J♠ K♠
UTG Folds, HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $4, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls $2
Hero SPR on Flop: [25.38 effective]
Flop ($9): 4♥ 6♦ A♦
BB Checks, HERO Checks
Turn ($9): 4♥ 6♦ A♦ J♦
BB Bets $6 (Rem. Stack: $508.40), HERO Calls $6 (Rem. Stack: $222.38)
River ($21): 4♥ 6♦ A♦ J♦ K♦
BB Bets $14 (Rem. Stack: $494.40), HERO Raises To $61.95 (Rem. Stack: $160.43)
13 Replies
What value hands do you think he is b/f to your riase?
Our range has almost no nutted hands besides qj and kq with the Qd. Villain sized his bets like he has a very strong diamond.
With this action, i would call before raising (hoping that vilain is bluffing with a straight draw or turned some Ax into a bluff), and i would fold before calling because i can count way more nutted hands than bluffs.
If you're trying to use GTO Wizard here it's not going to work.
Calling is a punt so it's between raising or folding.
I have more Qd then my opponent by a lot but he is underbluffing so the question becomes does an underbluffed line ever overfold.
That's the only question I'm trying to answer.
Our range has almost no nutted hands besides qj and kq with the Qd. Villain sized his bets like he has a very strong diamond.
With this action, i would call before raising (hoping that vilain is bluffing with a straight draw or turned some Ax into a bluff), and i would fold before calling because i can count way more nutted hands than bluffs.
QdQx/QdTx
It could definitely be a punt and I should just fold here but I'll punt a hand if I get to answer the question I posted above.
If you're trying to use GTO Wizard here it's not going to work.
Calling is a punt so it's between raising or folding.
I have more Qd then my opponent by a lot but he is underbluffing so the question becomes does an underbluffed line ever overfold.
That's the only question I'm trying to answer.
You don't have more Qd once you face river bet.
It can be over folded, if opponent is betting thin for value.
You don't have more Qd once you face river bet.
It can be over folded, if opponent is betting thin for value.
Turn is overprobed by a lot so he will have more thin value OTR imo since x/c is not an attractive option with a lower diamond. (not only because the line is underbluffed but the board texture as well).
It's interesting because it all depends on how BB is constructing his range, if he is polarized my raise is awful but vs a merged range it should be good.
I'll relay data when I get it, I just wanted to hear people's thought's on the spot in general.
Those thin value bets pick different sizing either ott or otr.
Reg OOP bet fold frequencies are significantly higher on 4-flush boards in every line I checked. That's expected though since IP usually raises with value (even more so in reality) which blocks OOP's continuing range way more than on any other texture.
Reg OOP bet fold frequencies are significantly higher on 4-flush boards in every line I checked. That's expected though since IP usually raises with value (even more so in reality) which blocks OOP's continuing range way more than on any other texture.
Yes I just confirmed this as well. It seems like showdown bias has massive effects on this specific board texture.
I'm looking at this exact spot and the aggregate is 67% folding compared to 2t-4flush runout is 75%!
