gross pf spot with AKo
1/3, effective stack $500
i open $10 utg AKo, one loose MP caller, old nit CO 3bets to $85, sb cold calls $85, bb cold calls $85.
play?
OP described V as an OLD nit, not just a nit.
Regardless, maybe the guy was nitty as hell, or maybe it just looked that way, because he's been card-dead and folding everything in recent memory. Maybe the guy understands his own table image, and will throw in some 3B's with hands that aren't AA/KK. Maybe when he does, he goes huge, because he's scared he'll get called, and have to actually play some poker post-flop.
If you fold AK, because you think V only has AA/KK here, and never anything else,
First of all the nit isn't likely folding to a raise (they don't bet 85 bucks with a stack of only 500 to fold). If we 4bet jammed he's just gonna call nervously and then stand up and hope we don't get there. I've been playing against these types of players for 10 plus years. We also have two cold callers and both of them are in the blinds and yes of course I have a reason for my decision that's the whole idea of posting decisions it's not a guess. I could always be wrong but I'm right probably 94 percent of the time in this spot (and much higher in llsnl overall).
I am really confused. I’ve seen old nits raise big with JJ because they are scared, but I rarely see them 3-bet with anything and would expect a call with JJ or TT.
But if he has AA or KK, he should know his 3-bet looks so scary and wouldn’t he be afraid that everyone would fold?
Seems like KK is more likely than AA because with KK an old nit will fear an ace coming on the flop. So he wouldn’t mind taking it down PF as much with KK.
I either shove or fold and I’m not sure which it is. Probably should just shove if I’m so confused because of blockers and the dead money out there, although in real time I would have a hard time doing that against an old nit.
So the effective stack is $500? I’m surprised an old nit has that much in front of him in a 1-3 game because they would be scared of losing that much in a hand. That actually makes me question how scared and nitty he is.
I wonder what the buy-in is.
Also this guy making it $85 PF doesn’t seem like a move I would expect from an old nit.
But if he has AA or KK, he should know his 3-bet looks so scary and wouldn’t he be afraid that everyone would fold?
I saw a player open raise utg to $30 at a 1/2 table (table norm is $10-15), everyone folded, they had AA. Some players get aces/kings and just have a mindset that they're going to raise big and either make people pay the max to try to draw out or hope they cooler someone with JJ+/AK. They just don't like having to sweat postflop.
result: i called, and c/folded when the flop came rags and he shoved all in. im guessing i made the worst possible choice.
result: i called, and c/folded when the flop came rags and he shoved all in. im guessing i made the worst possible choice.
Not a terrible call pre, getting over 4:1.
Obvious fold on the flop. That's poker.
A lot of opponents are going to jam all their over-pairs on rag flops in situations like this. Might he have folded 99-JJ if you 4B pre? We'll never know.
Very few instances in poker are this clearcut. This is a fold 100% of the time. No question about it.
1/3, effective stack $500
i open $10 utg AKo, one loose MP caller, old nit CO 3bets to $85, sb cold calls $85, bb cold calls $85.
play?
OMC raises massively because he doesn't want a garbage hand to suck out on him? Fold. $10 well spent. Don't feed the OMC's. When everyone else folds, you can ask him aces or kings and watch him mutter some nonsense.
Very few instances in poker are this clearcut. This is a fold 100% of the time. No question about it.
+1
Calling is absolutely torching money. Between the nit 3bet to $85 and two callers from the blinds there’s probably like one ace left in the deck for you to hit while still needing the nit to only have KK instead of AA.
Fold >>>>>>> shove >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call
