Pete Clarke is out to destroy low stakes.
The world's best poker theoretician, Pete Clarke, has undertaken a public challenge to play 400k NL100 R&C hands on GGpoker. Will we eventually see someone achieving a winrate above 25bb/100 over a large sample?
All combos of QJ, J9s and 97s are all the bluffs villain would need to make calling correct which doesn't seem unreasonable.
Of course the part they mentioned is whether or not he would also bluff AQ/AJ. That's what can make calling terrible.
You can't analyse hands like this. The idea all these bluff combos listed PURE 150% turn, then always 3x pot bluff river, never check or bluff smaller is what you are saying with this. However the value combos will take the line taken at a v high freq
The board is easy to overbluff due to how many draws were ott and that they all brick, but more in the smaller sizes and 3x pot is probably not overbluffed. And it would need to be very overbluffed for A6 to be good call, my guess is in equilibrium you need minimum a K pair to just be 0 EV.
I don't want to berate him for making a punt, we've all had them but seems like we're only seeing it because of the result and Pete goes along saying how great of a play it was
this thread is hilarious
These are the top 20 winners at 100nl over the last year on GG 100nl regular tables. As you can see, there are very few players over 150k hands with a winrate over 5bb. Keep in mind, that these guys probably table select well, and the fast fold games will be much lower EV, as the regs are fish are much tighter preflop.
How the **** did some guy run at over 200bb per 100 for 5k hands. That is insane heater for even 5k hands.
...Here he is saying he can beat the games 8-9bb pre bonuses and that ain't happening...
8-9bb prerakeback 400k hands?
is he smoking something?
the game is definitely profitable if you get 65%+ rakeback( weekly rakeback, leaderboard, jackpot, other promos etc) and put in a lot of volume
but Im not sure anyone is winning 8-9bb prerakeback on big sample 400-500k+
if you get 0-2bb wr playing 100-150k hands/month and 65% rakeback you are doing pretty good IMO...( thats basically +100buyins/ month)
8-9bb prerakeback 400k hands?
is he smoking something?
the game is definitely profitable if you get 65%+ rakeback( weekly rakeback, leaderboard, jackpot, other promos etc) and put in a lot of volume
but Im not sure anyone is winning 8-9bb prerakeback on big sample 400-500k+
if you get 0-2bb wr playing 100-150k hands/month and 65% rakeback you are doing pretty good IMO...( thats basically +100buyins/ month)
you will never get 65% rb
realistic rb is 40%
I vote for 25bb/100
jokes aside it's very hard on GG to have positive winrate after rake
a guy who doesn't even play poker claiming he can beat 100nl is hilarious just by itself
These are the top 20 winners at 100nl over the last year on GG 100nl regular tables. As you can see, there are very few players over 150k hands with a winrate over 5bb. Keep in mind, that these guys probably table select well, and the fast fold games will be much lower EV, as the regs are fish are much tighter preflop.
I like how that guy run 220bb over 5k hands and he was done for a year.
if you put in enough volume and get decent results in leaderboard and hit jackpots you get 65%
My calculation from the last month at nl200 RNC:
Fish buffet 14% rb, GG care 2,85%
from LD : for 8k hands avg rb 7,8%
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So without BBJ it is 24,65% (BBJ lets say 1bb/100 it is 12,5%)
SO together you get RB 37% !!! HOW CAN YOU GET 60%?
My calculation from the last month at nl200 RNC:
Fish buffet 14% rb, GG care 2,85%
from LD : for 8k hands avg rb 7,8%
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So without BBJ it is 24,65% (BBJ lets say 1bb/100 it is 12,5%)
SO together you get RB 37% !!! HOW CAN YOU GET 60%?
claim is based on my personal results last 5 months playing 800k hands NL50-100 wr -0.78
without BBJ you can NOT get 65%, you can literally play 45 days everyday and get 0 jackpots and then in 10 days get 2 big jackpots...
rakeback includes all possible $ that room gives you
Oneselfish, what happened, I remember you had a thread at nl50z (which is considered tougher pool than GG) with 4bb/100 EV winrate over 1.4m hands, how you lose now basically in the same games -0.8bb/100 ?
My calculation from the last month at nl200 RNC:
Fish buffet 14% rb, GG care 2,85%
from LD : for 8k hands avg rb 7,8%
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So without BBJ it is 24,65% (BBJ lets say 1bb/100 it is 12,5%)
SO together you get RB 37% !!! HOW CAN YOU GET 60%?
Run well with jackpots or fight for top 1-3 on LB's I guess
Oneselfish, what happened, I remember you had a thread at nl50z (which is considered tougher pool than GG) with 4bb/100 EV winrate over 1.4m hands, how you lose now basically in the same games -0.8bb/100 ?
you get old with time, also personal and investing decisions can influence a lot your results...
BBJ ->fee is around 1-1,5bb/100 so in my calculation i used that you will get 1bb as standart. So "Run well with jackpots" is useless, it is same as you can be 20bb/100 winner just run good at tables
LD -> to get 1-3 places at LD you have to play 15-18 hours. Nobody who plays 15k hands per day can beat it. So you have to sacrifice you real winrate to get 1bb/100more rb. It is never worth, since nobody can play their A game 15hours a day.
I agree with you, but in that sense I commented how Oneselfishguy might have gotten 65% rb (over 800k hands, not forever), maybe binked alot of more jackpots than he should and thats why RB is higher also if you seen his thread years ago he is one of these guys who could pull of few days a week for top 3 spots.
yes and i write it in general. Since i won my first BBJ after 1,1M hands. +Now last 400k hands after i moved on higher limits i won only 1x second place!!!
is there a link where he posts his weekly/monthly results from an actual tracker (not pokercraft 😃 ) . I would like to follow his challenge while he is destroying rnc, pretty pointless for me to do it unless he provides actual graphs
He will obviously just go quiet when he works out he is somewhere around breakeven in the pool
Do we have any updates on this challenge? Seems to be pretty quiet about it.
Just like Carrel backing out his challenge
Do we have any updates on this challenge? Seems to be pretty quiet about it.
Just like Carrel backing out his challenge
These people are extremely deluded about their edge in these games. Once they play some hands they realize they have nowhere near as big an edge as they think. There is a reason that Clarke is a (hugely overcharging) coach and not playing poker regularly.
Not sure why these people who don't play in these games think they can jump in these games and instantly achieve winrates significantly higher than people who have been grinding the games for a long time
100z on GG has a very decent rec to reg ratio right? At least this seems to be what Peter is saying. He might not be as good as he think he is, but I never found anything particularly terrible about him either, and he is going the “cool guys” exploit route.
So, why is 9 bb/100 (he said that number right?), including all rake back and bonuses, so outlandish?
100z on GG has a very decent rec to reg ratio right? At least this seems to be what Peter is saying. He might not be as good as he think he is, but I never found anything particularly terrible about him either, and he is going the “cool guys” exploit route.
So, why is 9 bb/100 (he said that number right?), including all rake back and bonuses, so outlandish?
Look at the rake structure on GG and you will see why
So, why is 9 bb/100 (he said that number right?), including all rake back and bonuses, so outlandish?
He is claiming to make that modest or decent (can't remember what he said) winrate pre rb and we all know that is impossible. Don't know what kind of wrs the best regs that are beating the lbs are making. Are they even making 9bbs / 100 post rb?
Checked out his youtube and it's quite active. Unfortunately the last video about this is from 2 months ago. With this rate it will take 10 years to complete this. Unless he allready gave up.
