Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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could have just been collateral damage
You mean they didn't mean to murder all those civilians with small arms fire and did so accidentally? Including those murdered in their panic rooms?
There's a lot we don't know.
They could have just come over to catch the music festival and then things got out of hand.
maybe they just wanted the jews to turn the music down
It's insane that when israel defends itself, propogandists say " they were killed by the zionists, they were killed by the occupiers, they were killed by the apartheid state".They were killed by the military of Israel, a legitimate state. Using your propoganda does not change the fact that israel has been a state for 76 yearsIs sort of impressive though. Saying it over and ov
Taking the 1967 borders. When was the last time Jews were the majority of the population in that area? They are colonizers/conquerers. Just own it
Taking the 1967 borders. When was the last time Jews were the majority of the population in that area? They are colonizers/conquerers. Just own it
Of course. And they shouldn't apologize.
The Muslim Arabs sure are not apologizing for their centuries of colonization and ethnic cleansing (still ongoing). It is a source of pride for them. They are still doing it where they can. Their main problem is because they are still stuck with a 7th Century mentality, they are so technologically and economically inferior to the rest of the world they cant do much other than asymmetric guerrilla terrorism.
The sheer scale of your apologia for both Hamas and Putin's Russia is as jaw dropping as it is shameless. This is why nobody objective takes your condemnation of Israel seriously.
you should read Israeli media
https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/b1t6...
https://web.archive.org/web/202401201458...
https://w.ynet.co.il/yediot/7-days/time-...
Israel killed a LOT of their Jews that day.
anyway
Spoiler
Anyway, Netanyahu's interestingly frank rejection of any Palestinian state is going to complicate Israel's relationships with its allies, if only because he went and said the quiet part out loud. The US, the UK, Saudi and the EU are all going to treat that as an undesirable position.
Noooothing burger
dude there's an election already in the works. Bibi is finished. The Israeli media is full of pieces of how close the war cabinet is to collapsing before an election. Bibi is saying his last little talking points in the hopes it maybe gets votes. He's in full election mode. He thinks he can get votes from people who are so enraged/traumatized from Oct 7th that they'll never 2 state.
Now don't get me wrong, BOTH sides are discouraged at the prospect of 2 states right now. But Bibi opening his mouth on it is the last thing you need to worry about.
israel should negotiate whatever deal is necessary to bring back the hostages and then immediately renege on it and resume the blasting of hamas to the moon until mission accomplished
you should read Israeli media https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/b1t6...https://web.archive.org/web/202401201458...https://w.ynet.co.il/yediot/7-days/time-...Israel killed a LOT of their Jews that day.
You know Hamas deliberately murdered civilians. I stand by my comments re your jaw dropping levels of apologia.
Taking the 1967 borders. When was the last time Jews were the majority of the population in that area? They are colonizers/conquerers. Just own it
Since the 50s? And they were plurality maybe in the 40s when the war of 1948 broke out. We’d be living in a very different world now if the Arabs didn’t attack Israel and effectively prevent the formation of an Arab Palestinian state.
You need to trace further back pre British Mandate of Palestine, the establishment of which established legal pathways for Jews to buy land (from Palestinians, legally with no coercion btw) and establish residences in what’s become Israel.
The Brits established quotas and tried to slow down the immigration but by the 30s/40s, the Jews were already firmly entrenched in the area. The flood gates opened when the Brits started sending Jewish refugees to Palestine during and after WWII. (Not particularly welcomed by the Jews that were sent there by the way)
Since the 50s? And they were plurality maybe in the 40s when the war of 1948 broke out.You need to trace further back pre British Mandate of Palestine, the establishment of which established legal pathways for Jews to buy land (from Palestinians, legally with no coercion btw) and establish residences in what’s become Israel. The Brits established quotas and tried to slow
It is ironic that the Un approved the partition plan partly because they hated jews age didn't want to give them refuge in their countries
Also they can't resume something they haven't been doing. They can resume blasting babies which ofc is your desire.
