KK on the Button: Facing All-In with Nut-Flush Draw on an A-high monotone flop

You are getting about 1.6-1. You have odds versus an ace or aces up. Not odds against a flush or set. You have QcQx crushed. You have his obvious semibluffing card. It is close, but given description of villain, maybe he isn't always ahead, so I would call.

Initially, it may be a check back on the flop or bet bigger to commit.

I actually would normally bet a little less on this flop, like 30. So his PPs no club can peel one time. Hoping for him to x/r. Against described V I'm snap calling. He only has to have the naked Qc here or there for it to be a call. I would expect sets and 2p to play as a donk or a x/call.

I call here, especially vs someone who bluffs.

You can bet super-small on monotone flops. With your stack depth, I think a smaller c-bet makes more sense. I might down-bet to $20 or $25.

I think we have to call here, against this V, the way you've described him.

It seems unlikely to me he'd jam with top pair as a bluff on a monotone board, or with a flush, giving you a chance to get away from your hand. I would expect this to be a lower flush draw.

Flop seems like a very easy check behind vs villain description no?

I go a little bigger pf with more money in the middle and the deeper stack.

Flop I think almost anything besides a big bet is fine. I mix a lot between small bet and check. Your size is ok but you're going to make it too easy on his small pairs and middling flush draws which he should have a decent amount of.

As played I have a hard time finding many bluffs since you have the Kc.

I think you see a set and baby flushes a decent portion of the time so I don't love it. That said some people still do stupid random things and you always have decent equity so I call.

yes, this is the key part I think. We have good outs if we're behind and we always need to include at least a minimum % of total spaz in a range at 1/2 unless they're an uber nit. And we know this guy isn't

I think we're up against an Ax with a high diamond quite a lot here, which isn't great but there's at least a chance he has a lower pocket pair with d and we have to call

I check back flop if I'm not certain I want to get it in

Especially this villain it sounds like. He isn’t going to put us on a flush and wouldn’t he expect us to fold to his jam? Of course he would.

From villain's point of view, what is he trying to accomplish with his X/RAI, and what hands does he give hero? The Ac is on the board, so the best hand beside AA he could give hero is AKo with possibly the Kc. But if he gives hero AKc, then he knows that he's not going to push him off of his hand. With a set what he would ideally want to play a turn to try and fade a 4th club and then apply pressure to give bad odds for our hero. He could be doing this with AQc, but the X/RAI still wouldn't make sense, because there's a ton of hands he's behind. Weaker aces are not doing this.

I'm going to say villain must have JJ-QQ with the Jc or Qc and we call.

Results

Hero called. V showed A7s. Turn was a 3c. Hero turns up his cards for the nut flush. Table oohed. River was a 7h. V scooped with his boat. The table cheered. The hand was bad for my dwindling bankroll but great for everyone's entertainment.

That was my thinking as I counted my chips to see if I had the odds to call. Given my read might also push all in with AxTc, AxJc, AxQc

During the hand, that point tipped the balance in favor of a call.

Gross.

Glad the table had a little fun, but sorry it was at your expense.

Oof.

I don't think you did anything wrong by calling. A7s and A4s are often folding to your 3B pre. And a lot of opponents aren't going to x/r-jam two pair on a monotone flop, when you could have a hand like KQs, or any PP with the flush draw.

If he waited until the turn for a safe card, and you bet 2/3 pot on the 3c, he'd probably fold, and you'd scoop.

Next time, just check-back or bet small on flop, when it's a monotone board.

Damn, that's brutal and unexpected. My analysis was way off. Lmao

If he turned A7 face up, you would have odds to call. You were 39% to win on the flop.

From the description and because it’s 1-2 I was assuming this villain is pretty bad and a lot worse than you thought. Should we even assume villain puts hero on a range at all? Maybe he just puts hero on AK, doesn’t even think about a hand like AKc and thinks he can push hero off a hand. It’s 1-2 so I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t bother with ranges.

I think he will be overly optimistic with a lot of bluffs. I thought he could even possibly show up with some bizarre holdings here because he could think we are scared of the flush. And it’s a monotone board, which scares a lot of 1-2 players a lot.

And I don’t think I’m reaching here. But it’s harder to judge how skilled this player is without being at the table of course.

Villain has aces up and is obviously shoving for value and protection against a club.

Hero has odds to call and odds to call against villain's specific hand. Hero is usually, but not always behind. Lol, I don't understand the comment about needing 5-1.

Shouldn’t you want any +EV call?

Lol. Say you have As4s on a flop of 7d3s2s. Say someone pushes on the flop for 3x pot. You are only getting 4-3 odds, but it is an easy call.

I like to check back this flop. A high and monotone. Other than that as played I call as well. Just unlucky here.

Others have given you solid advice. You need to have a strategy of dealing with these players. Again this player time, I'm going to do this and this and this and this and this is how I'll make money.