GGnetwork - Confirming the presence of bots.

GGnetwork - Confirming the presence of bots.

I will be confirming the presence of bots on the GGNetwork site, and I am providing all the necessary data, as well as the database of these players for you to verify by yourself.
https://we****/t-oA0qHM0bRM

I regretfully emphasize that we made several contacts with GGpoker, where transparency was denied to us. We just want the largest site in the world to set an example of security. We need the community united in this.

Step 1: The first step was to verify, through players from my stable and partners, an unusual presence of these accounts, all under the same flag, playing a large part of the day with an ultra-aggressive style and great consistency, leaving and entering always at the same time (as can be seen in the video in the link and in the attachment). https://streamable.com/2dlszv


Step2:
A significant gain for the limits was verified (considering that the first appearance of this group occurred in Nov 23 and the end of this analysis is Jan 24, 2024), And the limits of hands played follow the distribution that can be seen in the image, with about 70% of the volume in PLO50usd.


Step3:A pattern of play was proven, which can be verified by dividing the hands per hour of these players, and it was proven that they only play one table at a time for many hours, about 15-20 hours per day. You can see the printout of the aliases (5 players and divide, just like an example posted here, the rest are in the link).




Step 4: The pattern of various stats was verified, which you can check for yourselves, and are available in the file.

However, I would like to emphasize here the bet size, which works like a fingerprint. You can compare between the players side by side with the stat of the aliases, and tell me.



Additionally, unfortunately, this was the response we received from GG


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24 January 2024 at 02:14 AM
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I've left it in a separate post. More accounts with the same pattern (I won't repeat everything again), but with this sample, we can consider it just an indication.

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step 1: Graph of aliases


step 2: some stats



step 3: sessions



Isn’t this pretty widely known now?


by Dr. Meh k

Isn’t this pretty widely known now?

Oh really? I had no idea this had already been discussed. That's news to me. Could someone point me to where it was covered? I'd like to read up on it.



by Dr. Meh k

Isn’t this pretty widely known now?

Yes but the more it gets shown that GG has to know about this the more obvious it becomes they are profiting from it and regard the customers as marks to be swindled.


by sklpoker k

step 3: sessions

first image the text is unreasonably small.

second image is completely illegible due to its small size. repost without the size.


Thank you for your research sir. @dr meh, don't even think about suppressing the severity of this matter.


by MastaAces k

first image the text is unreasonably small.

second image is completely illegible due to its small size. repost without the size.

Really, I do appreciate your comments, and even though I'm making the database available and offering any data you might need to enrich this report for the community, I wanted to save some space here. If you're having trouble reading it, I suggest you put in the minimal effort of scrolling your mouse twice to zoom in or open it in another tab.

About the last image not being legible, I'm sorry, it really lost a lot of quality in order to save space, but with a little extra effort, you should be able to read it.


by DFSocial Poker k

Thank you for your research sir. @dr meh, don't even think about suppressing the severity of this matter.

Lol, ok, whoever you are.


Move this thread and other GG to the Portuguese and.Chinese 2+2 forums

No one really cares


by ScotchOnDaRocks k

Move this thread and other GG to the Portuguese and.Chinese 2+2 forums

No one really cares

Maybe you don't click on threads if you don't care for the topic? Shouldn't be too difficult.


some people only come to this place for this stuff. a vast majority honestly. go talk about hairball


by MoViN.tArGeT k

some people only come to this place for this stuff. a vast majority honestly. go talk about hairball

Is the Hairball you refer to?

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plo 5 card bots, really? i mean its a pretty bigger game than holdem. therefore alot harder to bot no?


by jayme87 k

plo 5 card bots, really? i mean its a pretty bigger game than holdem. therefore alot harder to bot no?

equities run very close in 5 card PLO which is advantageous when you want to go undetected. if they're card sharing their actual equities improve significantly by knowing which cards have already been dealt, as well as gives them great bluffing opportunities. i'm just spitballing of course.


by MastaAces k

equities run very close in 5 card PLO which is advantageous when you want to go undetected. if they're card sharing their actual equities improve significantly by knowing which cards have already been dealt, as well as gives them great bluffing opportunities. i'm just spitballing of course.

100% this. As most hands in plo5/6 have almost 50/50% equity, card sharing gives u insane ev boost, not only in all in spots, but also obv with knowing nut flush or nutfh blocker is out, therefore u can fold out 100% of villain range smt, as you're not incentivest to call your second/third nuts otr vs a raise etc.

Card sharing in this case is basically the key concept of these bots


by MoViN.tArGeT k

some people only come to this place for this stuff. a vast majority honestly. go talk about hairball

+1

I wouldn't think a vast majority, but we're definitely out there. I say all the time that I went from being a casual fan to a superfan when the AP/Potripper thing happened, then started a 2+2 account when the UB/NioNio thing went down. My posting volume is directly correlated with lousy stuff going on in the poker world.


by Wilbury Twist k

+1

I wouldn't think a vast majority, but we're definitely out there. I say all the time that I went from being a casual fan to a superfan when the AP/Potripper thing happened, then started a 2+2 account when the UB/NioNio thing went down. My posting volume is directly correlated with lousy stuff going on in the poker world.

And there was one thread on all of that


by ScotchOnDaRocks k

And there was one thread on all of that

Exactly. Threads merge all the time to avoid clutter and excessive threads all about one topic. Why should this topic be any different?


by Dr. Meh k

Exactly. Threads merge all the time to avoid clutter and excessive threads all about one topic. Why should this topic be any different?

No one wants to upset the Portuguese


To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed with this. I made it clear why I brought these data here (which I believe are quite solid). The goal was to discuss/reinforce/challenge the findings, in order to validate what exists and increase the chances of finding others with improvements...

However, what I got in return was a guy who didn't like the format of the prints, and a discussion about whether this post should or should not be here (as if it was absurd that I posted here, unfortunately, I don't follow poker forums much, but the recent case with maneytraker encouraged me to make this public. He is here in this thread, as well as a subsequent post about a superuser in microstakes, so I thought this really was the relevant place).

Anyway, I'm disappointed that the presence of bots on the world's largest poker site is considered normal. I guess this wasn't the right place to bring up this issue... I apologize, I couldn't find a way to delete the post. If someone could teach me how, or if a moderator could do it or move it to the right place, I would appreciate it.

I withdraw my offer to provide any further data on the subject here.


by sklpoker k

To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed with this. I made it clear why I brought these data here (which I believe are quite solid). The goal was to discuss/reinforce/challenge the findings, in order to validate what exists and increase the chances of finding others with improvements...

However, what I got in return was a guy who didn't like the format of the prints, and a discussion about whether this post should or should not be here (as if it was absurd that I posted here, unfortunately, I don't f

Nobody said you shouldn’t have posted it or it shouldn’t be here. Typically, when there is already a large thread dealing with the same subject, new threads get merged into it. The discussion is whether or not this thread should be a standalone thread or merged with the other one dealing with GG bots.

As much fun as looking at NVG with 30 threads talking about GG bots sounds, I think merging is the best course. But that’s just me and I have no say in the matter so you shouldn’t care what I or any other non-mod thinks.


by sklpoker k

Really, I do appreciate your comments, and even though I'm making the database available and offering any data you might need to enrich this report for the community, I wanted to save some space here. If you're having trouble reading it, I suggest you put in the minimal effort of scrolling your mouse twice to zoom in or open it in another tab.

About the last image not being legible, I'm sorry, it really lost a lot of quality in order to save space, but with a little extra effort, you should be ab

obviously i both opened them in a new tab (it is what automatically happens when you click on the image) and zoomed in, but on the computer i was using it was not possible to read the small text (due to the low quality of the images) - which is why i made a suggestive post in order to help your cause. you managed to both misunderstand my sentiment as well as be a condescending dick to me for no reason whatsoever.

by sklpoker k

To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed with this. I made it clear why I brought these data here (which I believe are quite solid). The goal was to discuss/reinforce/challenge the findings, in order to validate what exists and increase the chances of finding others with improvements...

However, what I got in return was a guy who didn't like the format of the prints, and a discussion about whether this post should or should not be here (as if it was absurd that I posted here, unfortunately, I don't f

yeah, i was unhappy with them not being legible for all of the community. still am, by the way!

you're butt-hurt over criticism on the quality of your first post and you're butt-hurt you didn't get the attention you expected and crave... so now you're taking your ball and going home. you are a piece of work, that is for damn sure.

you wanted to be a hero but wasn't accommodated so instead you are going to make the community PAY! pathetic.


I made my intentions here quite clear, and obviously when I posted, I was expecting interaction (and especially challenges) to improve my report. I stated this both in the main and previous posts. What's wrong with that? Seems totally normal to me.

As for this idea of me 'wanting to be a hero,' that's entirely your conclusion. Do you have such an inflated ego to deduce my intentions, even after I made them clear twice? There were positive responses here too, but I wasn't pleased, as that wasn't what I was looking for, again nullifying your solely offensive argument.

I won't drag out this conversation, as it makes no sense. I don't intend to teach an adult how to behave, but in other forums discussing this post, they said: "the reaction of the 2+2 community is baffling to say the least." I invite you to reflect on that. Very active members represent the community as a whole. Just as they automatically gain respect, they also carry that responsibility.

Regarding the print, if you really wanted to, you could have asked for specific information. But anyway, let it be... You have much more forum experience than I do, maybe in this environment, you are right.

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