PAHWM $2-5 NL
This hand came up a few days ago and I've been really going back and forth in my mind with it. Would appreciate feedback from other members on this forum.
$2-5 NLHE at Bally's Casino in RI, buy-in is $200-800.
Effective stack with main villain is approx. $600. A few items of note, this game typically has lineups of loose, sticky players who once they put a chip in the pot will rarely fold without seeing a flop. Also, this room has a regular $5-10 and $10-20 game that runs daily, leaving the $2-5 game as sort of an in between mix of players waiting for the bigger games as well as some short stack "shot takers". OTTH.
Blinds are $2 and $5, no straddle. UTG1, 2, and 3 all limp in for $5. Hero looks down at Ah5h and....
Next time you have A5s, raise, so you're not going 8 ways to a flop against 8 random hands. I take back what I said earlier, about liking an over-limp here.
99 and 95 were the only hands we were losing to on the flop. OMC might raise 99 pre. As played pre, he's got a lot more combos of 9x or worse 5x, but doubtful he's x/ring with just 9x. Like I said, as described, this V doesn't sound like he's going broke with a worse hand.
Against any random unknown V, it can't be terrible to get stacks in with A5 here. Even against an OMC who limped in from the SB behind 6 other players, and who isn't as likely to get it in without the nuts, I don't think we can ever fold to the x/r.
With the other players behind us, 3B'ing to get this heads-up isn't horrendous, even at the risk of having to call off when OMC jams. If he has 95o, he could also have T5-K5, and be putting us on a worse 5x. Even if we're behind 95, there's something like a 12.5% chance we can catch an ace or the board will go runner-runner with two cards over the 9 for a chop.
I was in a similar hand in a tournament recently. I raised pre from the BTN with A7s. Both blinds called. Flop was 779tt. OMC donk bets from SB, BB calls, I raise. SB calls, BB folds. Turn is an A, giving me 2nd boat. SB checks, I bet 2/3 pot, he calls. River is a J. He checks, and I jam. He sigh-calls with J7s, and I scoop, while he whines that if the turn wasn't a J, he would have folded.
I agree that the main takeaway from reviewing this hand is to raise preflop. I can't imagine based on game conditions this would ever be a fold from this position.
Eh, OMC probably isn't going broke with a worse hand in a limped pot unless you have a crazy image. If the other dumbos want to draw to 4 outs or 2 outs, I have no problem with it, b/c they're putting dead money into the pot most of the time. The main goal is to not get stacked by the OMC when he's not calling with worse.
I agree that the main takeaway from reviewing this hand is to raise preflop. I can't imagine based on game conditions this would ever be a fold from this position.
This comment and your description of the game/players in the OP don't line up and seem a little results oriented.
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I agree that the main takeaway from reviewing this hand is to raise preflop. I can't imagine based on game conditions this would ever be a fold from this position.
No, it's not a cut and dry auto-raise. Flatting was fine.
I would also flat pre because there's 3 EP limpers which often become limp/callers, and weak players often l/c big aces as well because they're in EP. Getting 8 players to the flop is great with our hand, we have nut flush possibilities which is why it's called a multiway hand and on occasion we sometimes flop two pair or trips or even a FH.
As played, I would bet around 20 otf and flat the guy who raised.
lol I just fold pre. pahwm finito.
