The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!)

Ive addressed various concerns you've surfaced previously. You obviously don't agree with my take. You feel that the bias you claim exists needs to be addressed so address it. Go make your case in the ATF forum. It won't be addressed further in this forum, as it has already been addressed, just not to your satisfaction.

So quit repeating the same accusations expecting to get a different action. Go address it with the people who have the power to change things more to your liking, should they agree with you.

Im sure you're tired, or stressed, or otherwise had an exhausting day, so it's OK. But damn, that was a limp attempt at trolling.

You missed "drunk".

For someone who was in the army, that was an amazing way to miss the target.

I'm still waiting on your response. I don't think you have addressed anything. You said you'd take a look and would get back to me. You haven't.

You have partially addressed one of the complaints of the accusationsof the white supremacy and made it a whataboutism where you didn't actually make any sort of ruling. You know that I've reported many posts of insults and was expecting more of a response than this.

then Bobo stepped up and gave this response

So he pretty lays out the conditions where he would agree with me. That condition was 100% met and I showed it to him. He's probably asleep now as I'm going to be in a minute. So I do expect according to what he says here to follow through with the temp ban as promised.

Based upon this, I'm pretty surprised to read now that you've already made a decision but decided not to get back to me about as you said you would. If you would prefer to deal with this over pm instead, then my inbox is open.

Doorbread has already confessed directly in the thread that he was indeed trying to insult me without any violations. That's exactly what the others are doing as well. I find it incredulous you haven't even addressed that. We literally have confessions of it transpiring and instead you're directing your attention to other areas with questions of subjectivity.

I'm really disappointed and hope you and Bobo will genuinely spend some time looking into this.

Again, any other thread I wouldn't say a word nor care at all. But we all know for a fact that in those threads I would be instantly banned if I were to make the kind of insinuations they are making about me.

Just think about how upset you are for what was clearly a rhetorical device with no meaning nor basis behind it, that was transparent to anyone reading it that I don't actually accuse you of being a sex trafficking pedophile nor that Bobo beats his wife that you asked me to stop. Now imagine multiple people are doing it, but this time it's for real. And they know have moderation protection to do it.

I've reported many slanderous posts. Feel free to dm me if you don't want to air out dirty laundry in public. This is not right.

For a guy who seems to have been dropping quite a few 'you're better than that/be better' remarks lately, I think you might be throwing some stones from a glass house with the last paragraph. I didn't follow your back-and-forth with him through every blow since you were both frustratingly talking past each other a bit, so I was going from my memory of what I had noticed. That's precisely why I said:

I'm trying to be careful not to jump to conclusions in these posts, and assuming I could have things wrong. But now that we're getting into maybe I'm intentionally missing things or whatever it is you're going for here, I went back to look and see if I was completely misremembering things, and it turns out to my relief, I wasn't. The post I was remembering is the one you cited when he asked you to:

Admittedly, I didn't quite get it right, as he didn't say you defended the poster, but his comments. He doesn't specify the comments, but it would seem logical he meant posts related to the transgender topic. That's an important distinction, because yeah, if he's saying you're defending transphobic comments, that's obviously passing a negative judgement on your posts. That said, it's about your posts, not you. For better or for worse, that's often been the dividing line in many forums here. That's not without flaws, because some people will use that as a way to indirectly insult/attack someone within the rules. I don't have an easy answer for it.

As we say, close enough for hand grenades and atom bombs. 😉

I thought I made it very clear in thread that I don’t agree with your characterisation of what I said as an insult lobbed at you, but I’ll make it extra clear for you here. I in no way take ownership for calling you a ‘horrible person’ or anything remotely close to this

I did very directly and clearly insult you after the fact and am happy to eat an infraction / ban if I broke any forum rules. I 100% stand by what I outlined as an insult at you

OK. Fair enough. I went back and looked at the last 5-6 post reports you made reference the trans visibility thread. I dont think any of them violate the rules about personal insults. It seems you often conflate an attack on your argument as a personal attack. Its OK to attack an argument other times you seem to go out of your way to try and take personal offense from an indirect reference.

To use your example about Thailand:

Ther is no way at all that I would take that as some sort of personal attack on me calling me a sex trafficker or pedophile. Thailand is "full" of both; they are referred to as sexpats. But the term "full of" hardly means everyone in the country is one. If most countries have 1% and Thailand had 5% (totally made up numbers) then one could say Thailand was full of them. Context matters. That's exactly the kind of stretch I am talking about.

So I think now it's clear what my position is on a good number of your accusations of personal attacks. So no need to wait for any further reply on any particular post. You said there is bias. I disagree. Go ahead and lay your case out in ATF. This back andforth isnt going to resolve anything.

I don’t think you should get a ban, I don’t think anyone should to be honest.

I’m just tired of one sided moderation where had I or chillrob or el razor did any of these things we’d all be given a temp ban

Idk if you saw it but I even specified that you shouldn’t get one

Is ATF pro or anti child sex traffickers and men who beat their wives?

What is wrong with you man? You’re trying your absolute best to poke the bear to prove a point and you’re still here

I think he is testing the theory that he doesn't need to outrun the bear, he just needs to outrun you.

He’ll always win there

I haven't stopped beating my wife

Thank you for the surface to air missiles. They hit their target beautifully. With the next batch, please send some surface to airplane missiles.

My first question is. Why so mod, bro?

He's just itching to release some more grenades.

I think at this point we're just talking past each other. I mean, you're right, that's exactly what I'm doing - I'm taking his literal words and interpreting his likely intent, in your favour.

To be clear in case it wasn't already, I'm responding to you as a poster.

****, if we're now taking "body of work" into account, I better wind my neck in.

you clearly laid out how you would consider it an insult

i showed you the quote which met those conditions

you then changed your tune and suddenly what people actually say or do is no longer important - so absolutely nothing matters, including the rules

and bobo, you're going to need an alt account if you think you can ever post anything as anyone other than a supermod, you know this

A couple of months in Tahiti to recharge the batteries will be good for you.

I think maybe you actually missed my joke. It wasn’t about “jerking it”, it was pretending you said to your own erection “Either you die or I die”, which I thought was pretty funny.

Remember when Robocop shot that dude in the dick?

Sorry, sis, way too subtle for me. I went straight to just "jerking it".