Maryland Live! (Arundel Mills Mall; Hanover, MD) -– FAQ in OP, added 2014.02.02
The Maryland Live Casino Poker Room is open 24 hours a day, year round.
Opening day was Aug 28, 2013.
POKER DIRECTOR
Mike Smith
WEB SITES
Web site:
Bravo:
DIRECTIONS AND PARKING
From the North
- MD-295 S/Baltimore-Washington Pkwy
- Exit onto MD-100 E towards Glen Burnie
- Exit 10A for Maryland 713 S/Arundel Mills Boulevard
From the South
- US-50 E/New York
- Take the MD-295/Baltimore Washington Pkwy exit on the left toward Baltimore
- Exit Arundel Mills Blvd
From Rockville
- Take the ICC to 95 North
- From 95 North exit 43A which is MD-100 E towards Glen Burnie
- Exit 10A for Maryland 713 S/Arundel Mills Boulevard
Free parking is available on floor 3 through 7 of the parking garage.
Valet parking is available on floor 2 of the garage, and near the Prime Rib, for a $5 charge.
NUMBER OF TABLES
52
GAMES
1/2 NL with buy-in of $100-$300
2/5 NL with buy-in of $200-$500
5/10 NL with buy-in of $500-$2000
10/25 NL with buy-ins of $1,000 - uncapped
4-8 Limit HE
8-16 Limit HE
15-30 Limit HE
4-8 O8 1/2 Kill
8-16 O8 ½ Kill
2-2 PLO with buy-in of $200-$500
5-5 PLO with buy-in of $500-$2000
10-10 PLO with buy-in of $1,000 - uncapped
Mixed games and other games/limits on Request
If you voluntarily transfer to another game, you must comply with the min/max buy-in. If you come from a broken game or a must move game, you take all your chips.
RAKE
10% to a $5 max, $2 Jackpot in holdem only
No flop, no drop
Timed rake starts at 5/10 for NLHE.
5/5 PLO and 15-30 Limit are also time raked at $7 per half hour.
Reduced rake @ 6 players or less.
BAD BEAT JACKPOT
No Jackpot in Omaha games.
Mega Bad Beat is Quad Jacks or better.
Mini Bad Beat which is 10% of the Mega is Aces full of tens or better.
Must use both cards in your hand to qualify for Bad Beat.
Pot must be $10 to be BBJ eligible and must be 4 players dealt into the hand.
PROMOTIONS
$500 for Royal Flush and $100 for other players dealt into the hand.
For Jackpots and Promotional giveaways, you get tax paperwork on anything $600 and over.
VARIOUS RULES
There is no betting line.
A bet plus half again is a raise.
Substantial action in CASH games is 3 players acting or 2 players putting money in the pot.
When hand is down to 2 players, those players can talk and/or turn over cards.
UTG straddles only and it's double the BB except $5 on the $1/$2 games and $25 on $5/$10 games.
Running it twice is allowed in time raked/non jackpot eligible games.
Four raise max in limit games.
New players do not have to post.
At showdown, players do not have the right to see mucked cards from losing hands. Winning hands at showdown can be seen upon player request.
If you voluntarily transfer to another game, you must comply with the min/max buy-in. If you come from a broken game or a must move game, you take all your chips.
CARDS
Kems
BOXES
A limited number are available
COMPS
$1 per hour, $1.25 for Gold cards, $1.50 for Platinum cards, $1.75 for Black cards.
Comps expire after 90 days of inactivity.
FOOD
Available at the table.
WIFI
Available
Players not allowed to use their devices while in a hand, but they aren't killing hands.
Plugs provided at tables for each seat for charging devices.
TOURNAMENTS
Rules:
Tax documentation provided on wins over $5K (minus the buy-in).
MASSEUSES - Yes
RESTAURANTS ACCEPTING COMPS
Accepted at 1:1 comps:
Mortys Deli
The Buffet
Phillips
Noodles
Luk Fu
Prime Rib
Gift Shop
Accepted at 2:1 after printing voucher from a kiosk:
Cheesecake Factory
Does not currently accept comps:
Bobby's Burger Palace
Re Tax forms:
In past years I would get a tax 1099 MISC form at the time of hitting a high hand promo over 600. I would receive nothing else in January
This year I received a 1099-NEC form. I have never received this before. It totals exactly what the summation of my high hands were for 2023.
Is this a new tax form? Anyone else get this?
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Just a PSA there was a follow-home robbery the other day from Live, the third in the past few months. If you win big, be aware of your surroundings going home and to your vehicle.
Re Tax forms:
In past years I would get a tax 1099 MISC form at the time of hitting a high hand promo over 600. I would receive nothing else in January
This year I received a 1099-NEC form. I have never received this before. It totals exactly what the summation of my high hands were for 2023.
Is this a new tax form? Anyone else get this?
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1099-NEC isn’t the correct form for reporting gambling winnings on. A 1099-NEC is “non-employee compensation”, which is the form used by a business to report compensation for services to someone who is not an employee...like a consultant or independent contractor. With 1099-NEC income, that’s looked at as business income from self-employment…which also means paying self-employment taxes (double FICA)…which is obviously not correct in this situation. Gambling winnings are supposed to be on a W2-G by the payer, but if not, I could see how a 1099-MISC could be a substitute. If Live is unwilling to correct it, you might consider include an explanatory statement with your return so the IRS isn’t looking for self employment taxes. Discuss with your accountant.
1099-NEC isn’t the correct form for reporting gambling winnings on. A 1099-NEC is “non-employee compensation”, which is the form used by a business to report compensation for services to someone who is not an employee...like a consultant or independent contractor. With 1099-NEC income, that’s looked at as business income from self-employment…which also means paying self-employment taxes (double FICA)…which is obviously not correct in this situation. Gambling winnings are supposed to be on a
High hands aren't gambling winnings they are prize earnings which is still usually a 1099-misc. But unlike a gambling winning you can't deduct losses on it
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All three I am aware of were poker players. Not sure about county. One was in the outside parking lot. Just be safe and smart and aware of your surroundings and be discreet with large sums of money/chips. A fourth was robbed in his hotel room last year, now that I remember.
They all won big at some point, why they were targeted I assume.
Now that there are not boxes, if you have a lot of money use the money link system at Live to keep your dough. It's safer. (Like a bank.) Or have them write you a check.
High hands aren't gambling winnings they are prize earnings which is still usually a 1099-misc. But unlike a gambling winning you can't deduct losses on it
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Then yes, as a prize, it should be on a 1099-MISC. I agree.
I received only a 1099 misc form for a table share of the BBJ I got last year. About $830. I received no other forms from live. I’ve hit a number of the high hands but none over $600.
I checked and mine from Live is also a 1099-nec. Technically the 1099-nec is better because I can write expenses off. In the end it probably doesn't matter other than the fact it's not the correct form
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I received the 1099 when I was paid out the $1000 but also just received the nec form....
Whoever processed these must be new to accounting [emoji38]
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I received the 1099 when I was paid out the $1000 but also just received the nec form....
Whoever processed these must be new to accounting [emoji38]
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Yesterday, Live mailed out the corrected form (1099-MISC) with an attached letter explaining the mistake with the 1099-NEC. The files sent to the IRS were correct, it was just printed on the wrong form. Check your mail in a day or so and you everyone should be good to go.
Thanks,
Has the asian guy who's tagline is 'My My My' been banned again from the poker room.
I saw him recently playing slots?!?
Sports social happy hr:
Date: Monday - Thursday
Time: 5:00PM - 7:00PM
Menu:
It's 2 beef tacos per order.
Normally it's like 3 for $14.
They are delicious.
Nachos is personal size but decent size (big plate).
The cherry crush is pretty good.
Not best bang for comp $ but if hungry and you want to watch sports on big screen...
Instead of commercials in the NBA playoffs, they show a music video, like old school Mtv
Sports Social is a great place for food compared to the other options at Live, which are all expensive and not great imo. Happy Hour pricing is very good as well
+1. Highly recommend the beef barbacoa tacos.
The slot ticket redemption machines now spits out five $20 bills as your first hundred.
So $220 ticket is a $100 bill and six 20's. :(
$180 is just Nine 20's... ugg.
I guess waaaay too many people lately have been breaking the 100s down into 20's after they get their $, thus holding up the line?
Or people are just more likely to blow a 20 dollar bill then they are a hundred dollar bill maybe.
Another example of shenanigans that people are incentivized to attempt due to high hand time period counting when hand ends instead of first card of the deck:
Buddy stalls for 3 minutes because the quads he has is smaller than what was currently on the board. Everyone at the table is aware of what was going on. Once the current period is finished, the stall is finished. His quads hold up until the end of that next period. He then draws for the prize amount and gets $5k.
Dealers incentivized to not notice because they work for tips. Players stall to try and win and others at the table are discouraged from speaking up for fear of being the bad guy.
Awful all the way around.
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Another example of shenanigans that people are incentivized to attempt due to high hand time period counting when hand ends instead of first card of the deck:
Buddy stalls for 3 minutes because the quads he has is smaller than what was currently on the board. Everyone at the table is aware of what was going on. Once the current period is finished, the stall is finished. His quads hold up until the end of that next period. He then draws for the prize amount and gets $5k.
Dealers incentivized to no
Just convince room to do it by start of hand not completion. Dealer hits shuffler button and hand is started in that period regardless of how long someone tanks.
Ofc won’t happen because takes more work by floors.
Just convince room to do it by start of hand not completion. Dealer hits shuffler button and hand is started in that period regardless of how long someone tanks.
Ofc won’t happen because takes more work by floors.
I get your point, but with just a little bit of training, it works quite well. I used to see this years ago at Daytona Beach Kennel Club. The person running the board had a timer that beeped a few seconds before the end of each time period. They already have their mic at hand for calling names. They would announce "Dealers, finish the hand you are on, it is part of the current time period. Next hand is part of the next time period." And the dealers were all trained to implement it that way. Once your board person and the dealers are trained on it, it is totally smooth, and avoids this sort of BS.
Another example of shenanigans that people are incentivized to attempt due to high hand time period counting when hand ends instead of first card of the deck:
Buddy stalls for 3 minutes because the quads he has is smaller than what was currently on the board. Everyone at the table is aware of what was going on. Once the current period is finished, the stall is finished. His quads hold up until the end of that next period. He then draws for the prize amount and gets $5k.
Dealers incentivized to no
If a dealer could call a clock, maybe you would have a point here. So if the other players don't want to be the "bad guy" what is the dealer supposed to do exactly?
Any player at the table could have called a clock and the floor person could have made a decision.
Also, if you look at the rules of the promotion:
14. On announcement of the completion of the period or the clock sounding the period is over, any new high hands will apply to the next time period.
19. Anyone found to be in violation of the integrity of these promotions, shall be disqualified. This includes slow rolling or slow playing to get to the next time period.
So when the floor gets there he has the option of delaying the announcement until the hand completes or simply voiding his hand entirely.
The room has rules on how to address this. If nobody at the table wants the floor to enforce the rules, that's on them.
If a dealer could call a clock, maybe you would have a point here. So if the other players don't want to be the "bad guy" what is the dealer supposed to do exactly?
I believe the dealer is supposed to inform the supervisor who is confirming the high hand board that the player violated rule 19 "Anyone found to be in violation of the integrity of these promotions, shall be disqualified. This includes slow rolling or slow playing to get to the next time period.", but that never happens. It is an awful position to put the dealer in. Their income is derived from tips.
Making a determination that someone slow played to get to the next period is subjective. How much time needs to pass before anyone can be 100% sure the player is waiting for next time period instead of legitimately deciding their most +EV action?
I have called clock on people in this exact situation, but I am by far in the minority. I was not at the table for this one. At the tables the next day the player who won the $5K was very happy to share the entire story including "3 minute tank that everyone knew what has happening" with anyone that would listen.
Rules that are unenforceable and\or unworkable are meaningless.