Covid-19 Discussion
Has the wisdom and courage to realize that the cure has now become worse than the disease. It's time to open up. Stop moving the ball.
Hospital systems have not been overwhelmed.
Ventilators are not in shortage.
Treatments are being developed.
There is no cure or vaccine. This is not going away for four years.
The devastation of the cure:
Suicide rates picking up.
Massive economic devastation which causes depression, anxiety, obesity, again increase in suicide rates and directly impacts poorer economic areas.
Alcohol sales up 51%.
Domestic Abuse on the uprise
Child abuse on the uprise.
Hospitals that do not have COVID related issues are forced to lay off doctors and nurses as there are not enough patients to economically support it, meaning they won't have the staff to deal with COVID outbreaks.
Michael Avenatti gets released from prison
We all did our part. We sheltered (here in Pennsylvania for 5 weeks already).
Open the office buildings. Open the hair saloons. Get rid of stupid mask laws.
Continue to monitor outbreaks and in areas hospital systems become threatened, reenact tougher guidelines.
LET'S GET BACK TO WORK!
And stop shaming people that want common sense solutions. Waiting for a vaccine is stupid and unpractical.
I also connected the two big spikes in excess mortality with green lines. The first one isn't big, but it's the first noticeable jump. It coincides with the first big covid wave in Japan, as you can see. The second one is around the time of the even bigger later waves.
So the vaccines didn't work then?
I've already told you how to determine that. Remember?
No. The purpose of vaccines is to lower the mortality rate beneath what it would be without it.
Now do you know the best way to determine if that's the case? Compare the mortality of the vaccinated population with mortality of the unvaccinated population. Luckily, this has been done many times. Would you like to look at some of that data?
Are you ready to look at that data?
Gosh I wonder what else was going on around the time of the first bump in excess mortality, btw.
On the graph of excess mortality there is a small jump coinciding with the first big waves on this one (thus, it's obviously the covid deaths). Then the first time there's a really big jump (up to around 20%) it's around September 2022, a full yeah and 6 months after Japan started the Pfizer vaccinations (Feb 17 2021 -
Check out the second graph in this linked article. You will find that the excess death spikes in 2022 almost perfectly align with the booster uptake.
Check out the second graph in this linked article. You will find that the excess death spikes in 2022 almost perfectly align with the booster uptake.
No thanks. I've had enough of your stupid conspiracy liars and how readily taken in by them you are. You are simply trying to do it again. How many times do you have to be shown these people lie to you before you stop believing it?
jfc
Oh ffs, that's the article I literally just spent all that time flat debunking. And you just post the bs again as if nothing happened? Good God. Read this carefully: those spikes correspond exactly with the covid waves. Exactly. I showed that above. Correlation with vaccination makes no sense because of the giant green spike that is missing on that one. They also quite demonstrably do NOT line up perfectly with booster uptake. Hell, the first spike starts BEFORE the boosters even started. How on earth can you call that perfect? Do you believe the boosters had time machines?
Also, your conspiracy genius author was mystified that there wasn't a huge spike in excess mortality during the period in red:
Baffling! But he claims covid was rampant in the western world (is Japan part of the western world?)
--"Prior to 25-Apr-21, excess mortality had not exhibited any signs of unusual activity, in spite of the alleged deadliness of COVID that was rife in the western world for an entire year."
Then there's this:
"Perhaps just coincidentally, Japan started administering the experimental mRNA product to its citizens a couple of weeks before death rates soared, an experiment they evidently did not need to take part in."
Reality: mRNA vaccines were deployed in Feb 2021. The first big spike in deaths was prior to that, beginning in Nov 2020. The first big spike in excess mortality wasn't until Sep 2022. Neither of those is a plausible fit what on earth that sentence is referring to.
Then:
"Also, perhaps coincidentally, each subsequent wave of death appears to follow a new round of “vaccinations”."
Reality: except for the one that literally PRECEDES it, but ok! Each wave of excess death lines up perfectly with covid deaths, though. So there's that.
Then:
"Especially perplexing is the second largest mortality “wave”, occurring between June and Sept 2022, coinciding with the second round of boosters, when Japan typically experiences lowest mortality."
A look at the graph will show that this was the time of the second biggest covid death spike. What the hell does it matter what typically happens in Japan? JFC
I know you're desperate here, but this is truly getting pathetic.
newest covid shots are 54% effective at preventing symptoms. if you're not a dinosaur why even bother?
honest question
No thanks. I've had enough of your stupid conspiracy liars and how readily taken in by them you are. You are simply trying to do it again. How many times do you have to be shown these people lie to you before you stop believing it?
jfc
Oh ffs, that's the article I literally just spent all that time flat debunking. And you just post the bs again as if nothing happened? Good God. Read this carefully: those spikes correspond exactly with the covid waves. Exactly. I showed that above. Correlation with
LOL You haven't debunked anything.
Data doesn't lie I'm afraid. You're the one who is getting desperate. You are flailing around like a headless chicken desperately trying to catch me out. And failing miserably.
LOL You haven't debunked anything.
Data doesn't lie I'm afraid. You're the one who is getting desperate. You are flailing around like a headless chicken desperately trying to catch me out. And failing miserably.
If you actually believe that, you are truly one of the stupidest people I've ever come across, and I mean that literally. I tend to give you more credit than that though and believe you're just being deliberately dishonest to try to save face. One of those two options is under your control, which makes that one the truly awful one.
I'm quite happy to allow my posts to speak for themselves on the subject, though. Congratulations on winning in your head again, anyway, dude!
newest covid shots are 54% effective at preventing symptoms. if you're not a dinosaur why even bother?
honest question
Covid affects every or nearly every organ in the body. We don't even know how much permanent damage it does each time, even if you don't experience outward symptoms. You should give your body the best chance to protect itself from that.
Or not. Your choice. But not doing so is a really dumb choice.
stay safe Gorgonian
We're seeing a bit of the super hero fallacy.
Increased vaccination uptake follows high infection rates. So deaths do tend to correlate with vaccinations to some extent.
"we're seeing......"
no one cares at this point
Yeah, no-one cares what anyone says in this thread. There's probably only about 6 people who read this forum anyway.
do we care if anyone caes?
We're seeing a bit of the super hero fallacy.
Increased vaccination uptake follows high infection rates. So deaths do tend to correlate with vaccinations to some extent.
Actually Chez I think you will find that increased vaccination may be driving high infection rates not the other way around. See the following articles for data that points to that.
oh brother. prepare for conspiracy blog spam
So, here's another analysis of the strong correlation between booster rates and excess mortality. This time from Germany. In this one we can compare states with low booster rates with those with high booster rates. And guess what? The states with low booster rates have the lowest excess mortality.
After having previously demonstrated that German booster waves precede German COVID-19 waves by 13 weeks which was confirmed by VAERS reports, I looked at German booster rates and German excess mortality by state.
I found the Pearson correlation coefficient between the proportion of people who have received a booster dose and the respective average weekly excess mortality of each state to be 0.63, which is known as a strong correlation.
The 2 states with the lowest excess mortality for 2022 (Sachsen and Thüringen) are the ones with the lowest booster rates.
Boosters are causing excess mortality by making people more susceptible to severe COVID-19 which I deduce from the following observations:
Each of the 3 waves of booster administrations is followed by a wave of COVID-19 cases 13 weeks later and a wave of excess mortality 15-16 weeks later.
VAERS reports show a peak in reports about COVID-19 pneumonia in the 14th week after administration of a booster dose.
The Pearson correlation between the average weekly excess mortality rate of 2022 and the proportion of people who have received a booster is 0.63 (strong).
The 2 states with the lowest excess mortality rates are the ones with the lowest booster rates.
Extended booster vaccination has been shown to induce humoral and cellular immune tolerance in mice.
https://vigilance.pervaers.com/p/excess-...
And here's one looking at multiple (29) countries showing a very strong statistically significant association between excess mortality in 2022, and uptake of COVID boosters. Here we can compare different countries booster rates with their excess mortality rates. And surprise, surprise once again the rate of booster uptake reflects the excess mortality rates. The lower the booster uptake the lower the excess mortality and vice versa.
https://www.igor-chudov.com/p/proven-rel...
This British MP even talked about it in parliament.
newsletters lol
The funny part about those nonsense newsletter articles is they can be disproven with direct peer-reviewed data. We actually have the data that shows that vaccination and boosters lowers susceptibility to severe covid-19 significantly. We don't have to try to infer causation from nebulous correlations that result from vaers dumpster dives (lol) and massaged data that these guys just had to download and use their own modifications to rather than just use the publicly available versions.
Like the actual, real data with proper controls and all of that.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker...
But nah. Where's the fun in that.
Well, these guys do provide legitimate sources for their data. It can all be checked if someone wishes to I guess.
And not too sure I would call the CDC an unbiased source of data exactly.
Brian James MP just means member of Parliament
I wonder how many boosters the elephant had.
