Potentially Cheated at Mohegan Sun and no idea what to do about it.
First off this is going to be a ridiculous story.
There is a single dealer at mohegan sun that deals more bad beats than variance would seemingly account for. In one month as an example this same dealer handed out 39 3 out 2 outers all on massive pots when I started privately writing down all the hand histories to figure out what my leaks were
. Here is where the story gets ridiculous. He isnt working with anyone seemingly. He litterally just mechanics the card to bust people he seemingly wants too. I know how crazy this sounds but here is how this all went down and why Im writing this post as I have no idea what to do about this mother****er going forward.
All of these beats happen on times he manually shuffles and deals. (There is no reason for manually shuffling and dealing Mohegan has two sets of card shufflers.) This particular dealer has been with the company for close to 20 years.
We have had an actual had a ring of cheaters come in this same ring was exposed and arrested for cheating at baccarat at the Wynn. Mohegan went through the cameras on these players and found no evidence of cheating at poker even though they were clearly cheating and working togather marketing cards ect. They were arrested at this for baccarat no less. Managment looked into this can claims there was no cheating....
So back to this dealer. Management was told and supposedly they went to the camera and said no you were mistaken which was expected.
So wtf would any of you do in this case. Besides getting video evidence on your own showing ridiculous beat after ridiculous beat on manual shuffles and risking a casino ban?
Here is the thing I can go to foxwoods but the 2/5 is abysmally bad there and they don't run 5/10NL. Before I figured this out this idiot cost me close to 150k over a couple of years. Not surprisingly my win rate has gone up 1100 percent in the past two years now that I know what I'm dealing with. I haven't been playing when the dealer sits down. Right now I'm litterally stuck just not playing a single hand when the dealer comes to our table rotation. The real problem is if this dealer is doing this what the **** else is going on here. The casino overall doesnt really care about poker and has tribal immunity for any lawsuit that could come its way anyway.
I'm only writing this to see if others have caught on to this at mohegan or if someone knows of a way this can be resolved. I believe it would take multiple people going to the managment outside of the poker room with some kind of proof or evidence. Basically Mohegans response is that dealers can manually shuffle if they want from time to time and this isnt proof of cheating ect (which is ofcourse correct.) Mohegan is incredibly strict about not video taping and I believe even banned rampage from the casino for his old mohegan sun video.
Has anyone ever experienced anything like this? Has anyone else from Mohegan caught on one dealer manually shuffling then handing out horrific beats consistently? The sickest part is this dealer truly isnt doing it working with a team of regs from what I've witnessed. He just targets people that he wants to bust out for various reasons (Doesnt like them personally) and takes them out with guarantied beats. Set over set two pair to rivered higher two pair is what he mechanics. Worse I have heard from other dealers that work there that this paticular dealer has bragged about this.... again its hersay and not confirmed and no other dealer is willing to go to managment with this stuff understandably.
Super frustrated and thinking of literally just playing far less poker and going to austin 6 times a year to play at this point. What would you guys do in this case? Im on the verge of just giving up and exiting Mohegan Sun poker for good.
I know they cheated but the calling hands out ect I thought was bs. I never saw this with my own eyes and really thought this was just a rumor. Why would you ever cheat and then call out flops and hands? I mean many people would just get up after that. That said yes the dealer was fired for letting them play high card.
The thing that really pisses me off with this card room is they know for sure the dude cheated at baccarat and I KNOW the floor was told they were cheating at poker and those ****
Hey man, same poster. They banned my account because they said I was using a temporary email address so be it.
Anyway, I’m not discounting your story because I have played at Mohegan for years and witness hand shuffling all the time. I even asked one dealer why this was and she told me straight up they are not supposed to.
While the posters saying that most allegations the floor has to deal with are just made up have merit, if they have not played a Mohegan Sun they should not say ‘oh it’s variance’ and because so many claims are horseshit the floor defers to thinking ALL cheating claims are horseshit.
For sure groups play together in tournaments and soft play. There are rings that work that room and have been doing so for years. I even had guys ask me to make backdoor deals on hands.
As to your questions, the dealer who was fired [mod: removed] and it was because yes he let them play high card. The thing about calling out flops and cards no I did not witness it. It was told to me by another dealer who saw it and had no idea how they were doing it. Could she be full of ****? Maybe, but she’s not the type. She’s an [mod: removed] lady. I can’t explain it either. I really do want to know who the hand shuffling dealer is so PM or just give me a hint. Hopefully this account won’t be banned.
mod: Feel free to PM details if you feel the need, but do not post them. That will be a violation of this forums rules on privacy.
I have removed a small bit of the above post that included some details about some dealers for the same reason.
Then my original point stands. Assuming the dealer is a cheat, there's almost zero chance he's wasting cheating on coolering you, specifically to nobody in particular's benefit.
I don't disagree.
The only situation I can think of is a dealer who also deals in a home/side game where he is expected to cheat so he practices in the casino. He really doesn't care who wins or is coolered in the casino, just that he gets his practice in.
For sure groups play together in tournaments and soft play. There are rings that work that room and have been doing so for years. I even had guys ask me to make backdoor deals on hands.
Are you nuts? Until recently the room rarely ran tournaments with larger than a $120 buy-in. You truly believe “groups” of any reasonable skill level are targeting a room with so little upside? Now in the old room there was plenty of daytime 2/5 regs who played soft against each other and a couple who you had to be aware of when they were seated next to one another, but their skill levels were so ABC that you could tell what they were doing before they even did it.
Are you nuts? Until recently the room rarely ran tournaments with larger than a $120 buy-in. You truly believe “groups” of any reasonable skill level are targeting a room with so little upside? Now in the old room there was plenty of daytime 2/5 regs who played soft against each other and a couple who you had to be aware of when they were seated next to one another, but their skill levels were so ABC that you could tell what they were doing before they even did it.
Huh? Yes they do, they’ve even asked me to be part of it. You are very naive. Several of the poker players are friends and take gambling trips together to Fl or whereever. They’ll come in together and play certain tournaments, you really believe there is never chip dumping or other stuff or that room is going to do anything about it? The buy in doesn’t matter, if there’s an edge even an unethical one they will take it. Yeah most of the games and tourneys are straight, but I’ve seen it happen and groups have even asked me to join them.
Again I don’t discount the OPs story, that room can be shady as ****.
FWIW, maybe 15 years ago there was somebody who crushed casino poker games in Northern Germany for two years. Everyone thought he was the biggest luckbox ever because they could never catch him even though everyone was extremely suspicious. Back then everybody had their own poker blog and basically every known German pro played against him and posted about the guy who was always winning especially with baby sets.
They finally caught him on video when he messed up trying to get the cards from his
I remember that wasnt he caught at casino esplanade?
I stumbled upon this thread when googling something along the lines of cheating.
Thank you OP for the laugh. Whatever drugs you’re on has to be some good ****.
Also, props to you for playing as far as cooler #39 before sitting out when the dealer arrives. Takes some courage to play that hand after you already wrote down the first 38 coolers on your notepad.
You should quit poker bud, it's definitely not for everyone.
I saw no evidence in you're tilting wall of complaining that you're being "cheated".
You can flip a coin 10 times and it can come up tails 10 times in a row. Does that mean the guy flipping it is cheating?
That may not be helping here because if we had a bet and only I were the flipper, you would 99.99% think I was cheating.
