The costs of trans visibility

So teachers find these awkward gays kids and magically make them transgender? How do these teachers benefit from this?

it's not "making them trans", it's making them live as trans. It's conversion therapy, it can't change nature but it can inflict a ton of damage.

Radical christians can "convert" homosexuals (usually temporarily), especially if they target mentally weak ones, and make them live "as heterosexuals" including having sex with opposite sex people right? or that never happens? it does happen and is horrifying and minor abuse when done to minors, why do you imagine it can't happen on the opposite side?

Except when it's an homosexual temporarily convinced he is trans it's even worse because of medicalization with permanent effects.

How do radical christians benefit from conversion therapy? they feel they are fulfulling their moral duty. They think they are the good people saving the kids. Same for the teachers "affirming trans youth". It's religion, not personal financial benefit, for the troops. It's financial and politics for the leaders of the groups as usual.

funsies? for their religious belief, people can make the most absurd things out of religious beliefs, even to their kids, think infibulation

It doesn't change their nature, their preferences, but it can change behaviour for a long while, including sexual behaviour

What religious beliefs? These are regular-ass teachers, how on earth do they benefit from magically turning kids trans? Why would they ever care?

It cannot and does not. Conversion therapy is fantasy nonsense invented by loopy fundamentalists.

Marxism is a fully fledged religion with its clerics and its rituals.

Can you read? it's nonsense to believe you can change human nature (but please remind this is true for all inheritable traits) but if you psychologically torture people enough they behave very differently from their own nature, at least until you stop the torture.

It is not, and most teachers are not Marxists.

Yes.

It's always bizarre to me when people characterize being accepting and inclusive of trans people as some bizarre religious practice. Guys, the big ask here is basically the same kind of morality story you put in a book for young kids about being kind to people who are different from you.

No man, not at all, it's not about being kind, it's about allowing irreversible medical procedures to pre puberal minors or not

False. There is no suggested medical procedure for pre-pubescent children. Just another lie you're making up on this topic.

Puberty blockers

We're you talking about these pseudo-religious teachers? Last time I checked, teachers and medical doctors aren't the same thing. Not that accurately captures what is happening with doctors either.

Are started at the early stages of puberty, i.e. not prepubertal.

How do you look at figures that claim a third of adults are going against millions of years of evolutionary biological pressure from all species who came before and think, "Yep, that's about right." Does Gen Alpha follow the trend and get us to 50%?

Unless you include people who will freely admit that a member of the same sex is objectively attractive. You'd have to be brain damaged to not acknowledge that Bradley Cooper and Chris Hemsworth are good looking dudes. Has my entire life been a lie?

Will nobody think of the children...

Western civilization is about to progress itself right out of existence. Warlords in Africa and Middle-Eastern dictators can't believe their luck.

Ins0 going full Great Replacement Theory ITT.

Hmm, I didn't think this debate had anything to do with interpersonal relationships.

Do you really think that young males who have never had a homosexual experience are answering those questions with Bisexual? I wouldn't expect that, but if so it would be some evidence for the increased popularity / perceived benefits of being considered as having an alternate sexual identity.

Although I don't consider it to be a problem, if you went down the streets of Portland you would likely be surprised about how many people you see who are trans (and of course there are many more who you wouldn't easily notice).

The left insists they should be allowed before puberty, have you checked ?

Nah liberals are self selecting themselves out of the gene pool.

The rest of us has children. We should just ask ti accelerate the inevitable given their choices.

Perhaps it's time to remove the right to vote for any over 40 non sterile adult who didn't have children

Not replacement, just memetic suicide.

Any group that can convince it's members not to reproduce because of any reason will disappear, because all political attitudes are inheritable.

If leftists don't have children because "the climate crisis" there will be fewer leftists in the future.

Which is why I have hope for humanity

You mean inheritable the way children almost always adopt the religion of their parent or are you saying there is a political attitude gene in their dna?

I don’t know where you got that I think bisexuals are not having gay sex. Certainly some aren’t but whether they are or aren’t is pretty irrelevant. To learn more you can read about bisexuals in any number of books or ask one of your bisexual friends, which believe me there are a lot of in Portland.
What I am saying is that most bisexuals tend to end up in straight relationships, especially in the past, for reasons that should be obvious. If it’s not obvious, you could just ask some bisexuals or read a book about being bi.

I think the gen z percentages have always been true, it’s just more open now. Therefore , western countries will continue on as normal except with slightly less problems.

Fertility rate on the whole doesn’t decrease just because some people have same sex relationships. There is no evidence of that.