Super Bowl 58: #3 Kansas City Chiefs vs #1 San Francisco 49ers (-1)
Kansas City Chiefs: 11-6, AFC West Champion
WC: 26-7 v Miami
Divisional: 27-24 @ Buffalo
Conference: 17-10 @ Baltimore
Super Bowl Record: 3-2
Last Appearance: Super Bowl 57 (38-35 W v Philadelphia)
How they got here:
If you followed along Kansas City's offense has done everything imaginable to ruin this for Kermit and the Swifties. So many drops, Toney lining up offsides to force them to play on the road, despite an incredible defense this really seemed like the year Kansas City was finally going to be not remotely close to the best team in the AFC. Then they get into the playoffs and put in some ****ing work. Mahomes scored 14 points in the first 2 drives, a field goal since and that was good enough to beat the ****ing Ravens at home. Pretty eye-opening no matter how you look at it.
Mahomes played on the road in the playoffs for the first time in his career (which in it of itself is an insane stat for a guy who is now playing in his 4th Super Bowl) and they put in work. They played on the road for the second time in his career. And they put in work. Patrick Mahomes remains the only active NFL player with equity to go down as the greatest to ever play.
San Francisco 49ers: 12-5, NFC West Champion
WC: Bye
Divisional: 24-21 v Green Bay
Conference: 34-31 v Detroit
Super Bowl Record: 5-2
Last Appearance: Super Bowl 54 (31-20 L v Kansas City)
Last Win: Super Bowl 29 (49-26 v San Diego)
How they got here:
Holy ****ing ****.
The Niners started the season 5-0 and in doing so looked like a generationally dominant team that was going to run away with the NFL.
Then they lost Trent and Deebo, lost 3 straight and looked like total ass doing so causing everyone to assume they were frauds.
Then they won 6 straight and in doing so looked like a generationally dominant team and Brock ****ing Purdy was the runaway betting favorite to win the MVP.
Then Christmas happened.
But all's well that ends well and they made the playoffs as the #1 seed.
Then the Green Bay game happened.
For 50 minutes Bork played like I would and the Niners looked finished. Then he pulled a hell of a comeback out of his ass and they won.
Then the Detroit game happened.
I literally just watched this game a couple hours ago and I still can't explain to you what happened and how except that somehow someway the Niners won. And that's cool!
What makes this Super Bowl so compelling
I can see why people hate both of these franchises for a thousand different reasons, but brace yourself for what will be the most watched televised sporting event (possibly most watched television event of any kind) in American history. And it probably lives up to that. Obviously the Swift element is...a thing. And we are going to have 2 weeks of lead-up for that which will be...a thing. But put that aside for a second and there are stories galore.
Whatever you think of Brock Purdy, last year he was the last pick of the draft. This year he is starting in the Super Bowl. Could he have pulled this off if any other team drafted him? Of course not. He fell ass backwards into an epic situation and the Niners fell ass backwards into a lucky draft pick. Trading 3 1s to move up in the most overrated draft in history only to have your franchise QB be some random guy from Iowa who only got the job because the two guys in front of him went down? If this weren't shoved down your throat for the better part of a year and a half it's the coolest story since Kurt Warner, bagman, who only got the job because the two guys in front of him went down. Btw, this time last year the guy broke his ****ing elbow and yet here we are.
Holy **** Patrick Mahomes. 6 years as a starter. Has made it to the AFC Championship 6 times. Has made it to the Super Bowl 4 times. Has a chance to get his 3rd ring and the ****er is only 28. He won't have Brady level longevity but we are witnessing absolute greatness like most of us have not seen in our lifetime. It sucks if you are a fan of any other team but the Chefs but still.
Rumors circulating this may be the last ride of the Walrus. Historically the man is both massive and massively underrated. His work with Philadelphia was both amazing and unlucky. His work with Kansas City has been nothing short of legendary. 4 Super Bowl appearances in 5 years with the potential for 3 wins. I would argue he is the actual greatest coach in NFL history.
Which is a good segue into the modern day iteration of Philadelphia Walrus. Ever since the Falcons implosion I would argue no coach in the NFL has more more criticism despite more success than Kyle Shanahan. The guy is an objectively brilliant offensive mind and in his 7 years as Niners coach they have gone to the NFC Championship 4 of the last 5 years and twice have made it to the Super Bowl. And they did this with QB luminaries like the Womp and the Bork. Kyle schemes like nobody in the NFL can but every time the Niners fell short it all fell on him despite the fact that they overperformed to get where they were in the first place.
This game is a rematch of Super Bowl 54 which still hurts my ****ing soul (Bosa was held on 4th and Tyreek, never believe different). These two teams don't have much history but the history they do have is massive. SB 54 kickstarted the Chiefs dynasty and the failure of Womp to close it kickstarted the Niners neverending hunt for a franchise QB that went from maybe Brady to maybe Rodgers to maybe Lance to....Purdy? Lots of trajectories changed 4 years ago and we come full circle.
Why the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl
This defense is good. Like, really good. Like, really really good. Pacheco has stepped up and the Niners run defense has been horrendous so far in the playoffs. Plus, you know, that Patrick Mahomes guy. Mahomes smoked the Ravens for the first 2 drives on the road which is as comparable as there is to a theoretical matchup with the Niners defense. The Niners have been pretty lax the entire playoffs to start the game and 1. both games are at home and 2. neither teams they faced are as good as Kansas City. There is no margin of error for lazy bullshit and if the Niners bring that energy to the Super Bowl this is going to be a ****ing rout.
Why the 49ers will win the Super Bowl
The Niners have an overwhelming amount of talent. The biggest knock against them is that they could not play from behind and the entire playoffs they had to come from behind. Were they lucky against the Lions? Absolutely. But they proved that even down 17 points they have a QB who is not going to be overwhelmed by the moment and a defense that can still step up when needed even if they failed catastrophically. As good as the Chiefs defense is they have yet to face an offense like the 49ers with as much efficiency and talent across the board as they have. Plus this defense is ludicrously talented. They may take 30 minutes to get jumpstarted but once they do they are locked in.
Gentlemen, let us Super Bowl.
I swore I wouldn’t get involved in Bork talk but this is exhausting to read and I have enough alcohol in my system that it’s time to step in and let it rip
1. Let’s be absolutely ****ing clear. Bork is an ENORMOUS upgrade over womp and if that Super Bowl played our with Bork instead of Womp the Niners win. And it’s not remotely close
2. Bork is undefeated in playoff games where he didn’t rip his ****ing elbow
3. Bork is consequential but inconsequential to Sunday. The Niners can win if Bork shits himself. The chefs have absolutely no chance if son of a drunk degenerate, brother of a sexual predator insta influencer, husband of a cuckqueen influencer shits himself
3a. That’s because the Niners have a better team than the chefs by a pretty wide margin
4. What does that mean for Bork’s evaluation? Look man if the Niners win the Super Bowl I don’t care if this guy gets paid 100 mil a year to lose every single game
5. Playing lavender haze while writing this post
Let’s dance ****ers
Well, it's always the same person who starts the Bork talk in this thread. By now I'm convinced he's an undercover Chiefs fan trying to make neutral fans hate the 49ers.
Kadarius Toney's response to the question if he can be a #1 WR: "Yeah, if they throw me the ball". We all know what happened when they did throw him the ball..
FWIW, based on what Andy Reid said today it doesn't look like Joe Tuney is going to play. Obviously a big loss for the Chiefs line even though Allegretti played well against the Ravens.
Go Chiefs!!!
Purdy's gonna snipe the Chiefs with uncanny accuracy on that grassy knoll Sunday. He's no patsy!
Nobody here actually thinks Brock is a bad QB. I mean the numbers objectively state the exact opposite. But some people...scratch that...someone is so sensitive.
That said, Brock Purdy 2+ Interceptions (+350) is stealing.
The Chiefs might be the greatest Dynasty since the Even Year Giants. We're witnessing history boys.
Caesars Palace knows what's up. No off brand system scrubs gracing Augustus Tower.
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Clearly you are referring to me. So can you please explain?
First you said I can't root for the 49ers. So I stopped.
Now you appear to be saying I can't root for the Chiefs.
So what can I do exactly? Please be specific and don't use vague words that require me to know and agree with your opinions.
This message is for everyone:
Root for whichever team you want. I couldn't care less. Don't be obtuse and troll incessantly. Simple as that.
Thanks in advance.
This message is for everyone:
Root for whichever team you want. I couldn't care less. Don't be obtuse and troll incessantly. Simple as that.
Thanks in advance.
I'm sure that is simple to you, because your opinions for what you mean by that are in your own head.
I have a different head than you and I honestly have absolutely no ****ing clue how to put those instructions into actions.
Second Hint:
Look up the definition of the term "obtuse".
Also look up the definition of the term "incessantly".
I'll say it super clear for you.
Stop playing dumb and stop being so sensitive to everyone's posting. No one is attacking you nor really cares. This is a fun subforum of 2p2 where people discuss sports in a fun, jovial manner.
Furthermore, stop being insensitive towards other people's posts. There's a way to get your point across without being well... a rude dude.
I am done explaining things to you now. If you can't adhere to these guidelines, which are very clear, then maybe the SE Forum isn't a place for you.
I'm done watching NFL channel pre SB. The CMC story with his parents and Shanny's parents yesterday almost made me sympathetic to the Niners. We cannot have that. I am a proud member of the Haterz and will not be swayed.
Go Chefs!
Great Googly Moogly.
I'm done watching NFL channel pre SB. The CMC story with his parents and Shanny's parents yesterday almost made me sympathetic to the Niners.
I think CMC's mom is this years Donna Kelce.
CMC and his dad would be the first father/son duo to win a SB with the same franchise as players? Thanks to nepotism we have a father/son coaching duo every other year.
If you guys are going to troll this is how you troll
Up your game folks
Pretty solid
Also shocked AB’s still alive. Good for him