NBA 2024-25 Season Thread
Lettuce NBA!
and lettuce lol @ James Harden
i mean, Xavier Tillman for some 2nd rounders is fire and all, but I need some action today!
Pacers just Granger'd themselves again. Traded Buddy Hield to Philly for parts and 2nd round picks.
"I think the one thing that people need to understand with Buddy Hield -- and I've played with him my whole career -- is the gravity that he has as a basketball player," Haliburton said. "His spacing even when he's not making shots -- which isn't often, I mean, he's one of the best shooters who's ever touched a basketball -- his gravity when he's on the floor and in our stack actions and in our movement actions, a lot of times, you have to respect what he does even if he's not making shots in the game. You have to run two at them and that kind of opens up everything for us."
"To the normal person, I don't think they realize how important Buddy Hield is to what we do," McConnell said. "Even if he's not shooting the ball. The attention he brings -- and they can get messed up on defense -- he's the best in the league at it. We love having him out there."
"He's been one of the best shooters in the NBA since he's gotten into the league," McConnell said. "The attention that teams bring because he's a gifted shooter and cutter and mover and passer. He's underrated in a lot of those categories that I mentioned. He's not underrated in shooting, but people don't really understand what he does for on offense. As simply as being selfless, taking yourself out of the play and creating open gaps for the point guards, he's elite at it."
Net rating backs up what the players are saying too. Massive misstep by the front office in the middle of a promising season.
Heyward to OKC. Feels like that would be an insane trade 4 years ago
This development pleases me.
Pacers just Granger'd themselves again. Traded Buddy Hield to Philly for parts and 2nd round picks.
Net rating backs up what the players are saying too. Massive misstep by the front office in the middle of a promising season.
Yeah, my immediate reaction when reading the trade details was, "this seems bad."
I've been told it's just a salary dump to get off of the Bertans money. I haven't watched Hayward play in years because Hornets games are blacked out for me, but I assume he's washed? Maybe if healthy he can get into the deep rotation in the reg season ahead of the non-good players like Kendrich/Micic? There's no way he's taking real minutes away from Wiggins/Joe/Wallace since those guys are all good. But even if he contributes nothing it's probably a fine trade by OKC.
Bogdanovic and Burks to Knicks for Grimes, Fournier, Flynn, Arcidiacono and a pair of 2nd rounders.
Knicks got exactly what they needed and are going ALL THE WAY!!!
Obviously the roster has changed but the numbers are similar with Pascal:
Haliburton-Hield-Brown-Toppin-Turner
171 min. +19.9 net rtg
Haliburton-Mathurin-Brown-Toppin-Turner
148 min, -4.0 net rtg
Again, there have been lineup changes since the trade, but the numbers are basically always the same. HIelds spacing and shooting is obvious. It's a big reason Siakam integrated so well.
This move is awful
They basically swapped expiring contracts for the pleasure of three second round picks.
Good for Philly.
I've been told it's just a salary dump to get off of the Bertans money. I haven't watched Hayward play in years because Hornets games are blacked out for me, but I assume he's washed? Maybe if healthy he can get into the deep rotation in the reg season ahead of the non-good players like Kendrich/Micic? There's no way he's taking real minutes away from Wiggins/Joe/Wallace since those guys are all good. But even if he contributes nothing it's probably a fine trade by OKC.
Definitely nice to accelerate the Bertans money into Hayward being on an expiring deal. Maybe we can make something out of Tre Mann. We desperately needed another PG, so at least there is that.
Like usual, when Hayward plays, he's still pretty good. His splits this year are basically at career averages. But if healthy is always the caveat. He played 44/72, 49/82, 50/82, and 25/50 for us in 3.5 seasons. He hasn't played since 12/26, but it seems like the Hornets have been tank benching injuries, so no idea how healthy he actually is today. I'm guessing he's about as healthy as he's going to get right now.
He missed one game on 11/14 for hamstring, he missed two games on 12/16 and 12/18 for illness, and the reported injury on 12/26 was calf.
They basically swapped expiring contracts for the pleasure of three second round picks.
Good for Philly.
And the Pacers lost a contributing player that provides space for your offense (and happens to be your franchise player's best friend, to the extent that matters for morale).
Thats the Danny Granger reference. Back in 2014, they traded Granger to the Sixers for Evan Turner and Levoy Allen (lol). Granger was a shadow of himself at that point, but everyone agreed he was an important lockerroom leader.
Turner and Allen didn't contribute and the season went down in flames.
Bridges has a trade veto on a one year deal? Why would Charlotte agree to that?
Because it's Charlotte.
I'm guessing the negotiations were give and get considering he only signed for $8 mil. I realize he didn't have a ton of leverage given his character issues, but that was only $2.5 mil more than the last year of his rookie deal after already losing one full season of comp. Bridges had to protect his Bird rights.
Either way, my read is we want to keep him and try re-sign him regardless, and there were never any plans to actually try to trade him.
You guys will love this quote from draft night.
'Charlotte initially selected point guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander from Kentucky with the 11th overall pick, but traded him to the Clippers for the 12th overall pick and second-round picks in 2020 and 2021. The Clippers then selected Bridges for the Hornets.
"He's one of the highest character players in the draft, very athletic, plays hard, and he's very versatile," Kupchak said. "... There is not much to not like about Miles Bridges."'
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2386...
Should have stuck with SGA, but we had Kemba at the time, so they were trying to find a wing to go with Kemba. Kemba was in Boston the following season. Just another example of not worrying about position and taking BPA and figuring it out.
Also, hot off the presses, we have now shipped PJ Washington to Dallas for Grant Williams, Seth Curry, and a 1st. Looks like we also sent two 2nds back to Dallas. The first is 2027 and is only top 2 protected.
Toronto throwing darts eh?
Poetl to the Clips one time please
Royce O'Neal to Phoenix for picks. Seems like a decent depth piece
Bucks get PatBev. Can he do anything for that defense
Lolol Killian Hayes released.
no worries, RT
Doug McD is walking thru that door
This is dumb.
They're nearly the same player except Dougie is older andshoots a little better on half the volume. They're both on expiring deals and Buddy is close with Tyrese and is already acclimated to the system.
KP is just pushing buttons to get 2 SRPs I guess.
I'm guessing it's them thinking they weren't going to sign him next year so let's downsize the core and solidify what we are moving forward, get more minutes for the young guys and build maximum long-term chemistry. Plus the picks obv.
That's self-defeating and counter to the point of the Siakam trade imo. Nothing else makes sense tho.