Israel/Palestine thread
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I've seen it worded 3 different ways
As part of its proposal, Hamas said it wanted influence over protocols allowing Jewish entry into the Temple Mount complex, a contested holy site in Jerusalem that includes Al-Aqsa mosque, an official familiar with the deal told Haaretz
Everyone understands that to be deciding Jews can't get in. But you can play word gymnastics all over that. I've seen a few Hebrew versions where it's a bit more clearly defined.
To be clear Bill, it's not a real consideration anyway, in the sense that they knew when they sent it that it was a no. They didn't think anyone would take that seriously. Same as nobody took "10 years" seriously.
It's mainly just 'land'. The Palestinians had been living there, like they always had, for over 1800 years after the Roman deportation of the Jews, long before the invention of Islam, and then in the 20th century they abruptly got told to get out, and occasionally massacred, by a bunch of aggressive and well-financed European settlers. The religious fetishisation of the land has rather more to do with Zionism (an ideology constructed by foreigners, from the Viennese Herzl to the Brooklynites cur
I have said this before, but you really need to update your software. It isn't 1960 and Sinwar isn't Nasser.
Palestinian society has been heavily radicalized along fundamentalist Islamic lines in the last 80 years, and fundamentalist religion is very much an important aspect of their identity, culture and their current understanding of the conflict with the Yahood.
You attributing religious fetish to Israel, and completely hand waiving away the obvious reality that Palestinian society in 2024 is one of the most fundamentalist religious societies in the world today is frankly comical, and says a lot about your own deep seated prejudices.
Also, there have been many waves of immigration and emigration in the Levant over the last 1800 years (like much of the rest of the world). The idea there has been some fixed "Palestinian people" native to the land that have been there 2000 years, and that the Muslim Arabs living in Gaza and the West Bank, are the descendants of those people is not supported by historical or genetic evidence at all. Genetic records indicate that Christian Arabs and Beduins are the groups most indigenous to the region. And you are more likely to find one of them running a gas station in Chicago as you are living in Gaza or the West Bank.
Most of the Muslim Arab population has lots of gene flow from more recent waves of immigration from Egypt, Arabia and Iran.
Hey cool the race science guy is back.
rumours that qatar, at the insistence of the united states, are about to send a polite request to the hamas leadership - that they check out of their nice hotels and go on a permanent holiday. yemen is nice this time of year.
another terrible day for hamas and their supporters itt
rumours that qatar, at the insistence of the united states, are about to send a polite request to the hamas leadership - that they check out of their nice hotels and go on a permanent holiday. yemen is nice this time of year.
another terrible day for hamas and their supporters itt
Would be a shame if they had some kind of accident while in transit to their new accommodations. Cruise missiles are in the forecast this time of year.
rumours that qatar, at the insistence of the united states, are about to send a polite request to the hamas leadership - that they check out of their nice hotels and go on a permanent holiday. yemen is nice this time of year.
another terrible day for hamas and their supporters itt
Word is Hamas’ proposal was so insulting the Egyptians and Qataris both felt embarrassed and pissed off.
https://forward.com/fast-forward/580923/...
Since there are people itt calling Israel white colonizers and claiming they can tell an Israeli from a Palestinian...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-ea...
Israel-Gaza war: US says it will not back unplanned Rafah offensive
https://forward.com/fast-forward/580923/...
Since there are people itt calling Israel white colonizers and claiming they can tell an Israeli from a Palestinian...
I'd say the ratio of the white looking Israeli's to non-white looking Israeli's in my travels (having never been to Israel but Israelis travel latin America well) is about 3:2.
*Maybe 3:1 I'm forgetting some white ones
Since you think I'm making it up Trolly
Doesn’t mean it isn’t a war of white against brown people.
Like I said 100 random Israeli photos vs 100 random Palestinian
You’re saying you won’t be able to tell the difference
Wanna bet?
I think we can examine 100 random media images of Israeli people vs 100 random images of Palestinian people and we can judge for ourselves
Are any of you guys brown? I don’t mean white with brown features, I mean brown like you can’t check white on the census
You are a disgusting racist and you should be ashamed
But no it's very dutifully to Palestinians from jews
Are you brown yes or no
Is your skin brown
The census asks if you’re black or white but not brown. Maybe not even black but I believe so
I don’t think a professional or high level sports team showing brown people means anything when discussing if the Israel/Palestinian conflict is brown vs white people
Great. We can take 200 pics and you won’t be able to decipher which side is which, but I’ll be able to
How much would you like to bet ?
And please stop lying. I didn’t say anything about black
Israel is full of white people, Gaza is not. Let’s do a bet! Should be super easy for you to beat me.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-ea...
Israel-Gaza war: US says it will not back unplanned Rafah offensive
They won't stop it though
I'd say the ratio of the white looking Israeli's to non-white looking Israeli's in my travels (having never been to Israel but Israelis travel latin America well) is about 3:2.
*Maybe 3:1 I'm forgetting some white ones
What about Italians? Just to understand what your threshold is for "white looking"
I did
But this article came up to show how stupid his comments were and I'm not allowed to post it?
You have posted 1000 times asking how many Palestinians have to die but i can't beat a dead horse?
https://forward.com/fast-forward/580923/...
Since there are people itt calling Israel white colonizers and claiming they can tell an Israeli from a Palestinian...
What is Italy became a Muslim dominated country for 1,000 years and then some Italians from around the world came and took over the Vatican and returned catholism to be the dominate religion and made their own state. Would that simply be conquerers or recolonized or what?
