Do you believe racism exists and is a problem in the US medical system?

Do you believe racism exists and is a problem in the US medical system?

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08 February 2024 at 08:54 PM
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by Luciom k

so blacks are being helped to avoid painkiller addiction, that's anti white racism if anything.

Making people experience more pain is akin torture. More pain isn’t helping them

Here’s some more racism in healthcare

According to a Yale University statistician who analyzed the VA records, the records show throughout the two-decade period that the VA denied Black veterans disability compensation at an average rate of 29.5%, compared to the 24.2% of White veterans who were denied disability benefits. The VA notably granted disability compensation to Black veterans at an average rate of 30.3% and White veterans at an average rate of 37.1%, the lawsuit says the statistician found.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/30/us/va-bla...


by Luciom k

if it's black men killing black women, you can't claim the cause is racism can you?

you could actually claim opposite stuff which the left doesn't like very much

I’m sorry I must have missed something

You don’t think killing people because they are black is racist?


by PointlessWords k

I’m sorry I must have missed something

You don’t think killing people because they are black is racist?

lol man I think that if BLACK MEN kill BLACK WOMEN that isn't because they dislike black people, do you think that's the case?
maybe, just maybe, black men kill more than any other demography (by a very large margin) and they happen to be close to many black women?


You’re saying you can’t claim black men kill black women is racist

I’m saying yes the **** you can. Oftentimes femicide is done by the same race. See Mexico for example


by Luciom k

tbh we don't have anything else than subjective ranking of pain to go with

That's true but I don't think it's good for anything except finding out if a particular patient is feeling better or worse.


by PointlessWords k

You’re saying you can’t claim black men kill black women is racist

I’m saying yes the **** you can. Oftentimes femicide is done by the same race. See Mexico for example

So you think Mexican men kill a lot of Mexican women because they hate Mexicans?


by PointlessWords k

You’re saying you can’t claim black men kill black women is racist

I’m saying yes the **** you can. Oftentimes femicide is done by the same race. See Mexico for example

You're missing the point, which is that most of the time these racial disparities in statistics have nothing to do with alleged racism inherent within the system or topic being studied.

People ITT bring up the black mortality rates during child birth, but even the resident medical professionals are conceding that weight is the actual important factor there, and it just so happens a disproportionate number of black women are overweight.


That’s one way to ignore the data


by chillrob k

So you think Mexican men kill a lot of Mexican women because they hate Mexicans?

It's more like they would kill white women if they could, but they know the police will put less resources into dead latinas so they go for them instead.


by PointlessWords k

You’re saying you can’t claim black men kill black women is racist

I’m saying yes the **** you can. Oftentimes femicide is done by the same race. See Mexico for example

Ye if same ethnicity people kill themselves, that's bad but it's clearly, objectively, not racism lol.


by chillrob k

That's true but I don't think it's good for anything except finding out if a particular patient is feeling better or worse.

(Or if they need external help).

We actually use that (self identified pain thresholds using smilies) for kids of all races in triage.

It's not perfect but there isn't anything better to go with


ITT I learnt that if black men kill many more black women proportionally than white men kill white women, then that's proof society is racist against blacks.


by Luckbox Inc k

It's more like they would kill white women if they could, but they know the police will put less resources into dead latinas so they go for them instead.

Murder because racist society won’t investigate. That’s only part of it however.

by Luciom k

Ye if same ethnicity people kill themselves, that's bad but it's clearly, objectively, not racism lol.

How so? You can’t be racist against your own race?


by Luciom k

ITT I learnt that if black men kill many more black women proportionally than white men kill white women, then that's proof society is racist against blacks.

I don’t doubt that you got that after reading this thread. Perhaps you should sit down with someone older than you and ask them what each post means. Clearly you’re making things up that aren’t there


by PointlessWords k

Murder because racist society won’t investigate. That’s only part of it however.

I was only joking. Latinos kill latinos, blacks kill blacks, and whites kill whites because those are the people they are most around.


by Luckbox Inc k

I was only joking. Latinos kill latinos, blacks kill blacks, and whites kill whites because those are the people they are most around.

And what if one group is killing much more of their own kind than the others


Hang on, boys. Let him cook.


by PointlessWords k

And what if one group is killing much more of their own kind than the others

Then they're spending a bit too much time with them..


by Luckbox Inc k

I was only joking. Latinos kill latinos, blacks kill blacks, and whites kill whites because those are the people they are most around.

But Asians don't kill anyone


by Luciom k

But Asians don't kill anyone

When they do though it's other Asians.


by Luckbox Inc k

When they do though it's other Asians.

Source? Unlike other ethnicities, it doesn't look like Asians are mostly killing asians


by Luciom k

Source? Unlike other ethnicities, it doesn't look like Asians are mostly killing asians

No source as I prefer to just make up all my murder stats.


by Luciom k

But Asians don't kill anyone

Typically not, unless they accidentally run another one over with a vehicle; at which point they always go back and make sure to finish the job.


by Luckbox Inc k

It's more like they would kill white women if they could, but they know the police will put less resources into dead latinas so they go for them instead.

Can't tell if sarcasm or serious.

*edit - ok, not serious but... *

Most times a man kills a woman, she is a current or former romantic partner. So most often she will be of the same race.


Racial inequities in homicide rates and homicide methods among Black and White women aged 25–44 years in the USA, 1999–2020: a cross-sectional time series study

Honestly how can so many of you guys be ignorant and misinformed

Methods

This study examined a cross-sectional time series of homicide death rates, by race, from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Wide-ranging Online Data for Epidemiologic Research system. We included data for women aged 25–44 years between 1999 and 2020 among 30 states in the USA. Homicide death was classified using underlying cause and multiple cause of death codes; mortality rates were calculated per 100 000 based on US Census Bureau population sizes. Homicide methods were classified as firearm, cutting or piercing, and other. Firearm homicides were compared with other homicides with logistic regression including covariates of race, time, and their interaction. We report odds ratios and 95% CIs.
Findings

In 2020, the homicide rate among Black women was 11·6 per 100 000, compared with 3 per 100 000 among White women. This inequity has persisted over time and is virtually unchanged since 1999. Homicide inequities vary across US states; in 11 states, racial inequities have increased since 1999. The racial inequity was greatest in Wisconsin, where in 2019–20, Black women aged 25–44 years were 20 times more likely to die by homicide than White women. Homicide by firearm is increasing in frequency; women in the USA had 2·44 (95% CI 2·14–2·78) times the odds of homicide involving firearms in 2019–20 compared with 1999–2003. Firearm homicide deaths are disproportionately concentrated among Black women in every region in the USA.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lance...

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