The Media Thread
This is a topic that gets a lot of play (especially by me), but doesn't really have its own thread so kind of just gets spread around. Seems reasonable to just have a thread to discuss the media.
https://www.richardhanania.com/p/why-the...
Anyways, I dont really endorse this opinion; but in this article Hanania does make a reasonable argument that acknowledges the leftist MSM's partisan flaws, but also argues it is in its totality a positive, and most certainly better than anything that would fill the vacuum if they weren't around. He does acknowledge when it comes to matters of race, the leftist media does show itself to be completely unhinged and should be treated as such. But this is the exception to the rule.
Definitely something for someone who is inherently very critical and skeptical of the media (such as myself) to think about. Especially the part about thinking what would fill the vacuum if they weren't around.
Link to this BBC article? Like I said, I still am not sure they are actually trans. Right wing twitter will often report true things media obfuscates because it isn't convenient to the narrative; but they will also flat out say things that are not true. So anytime something is being reported on right wing twitter that you cant find any confirmation at all in the MSM, even with a lot of digging, there should be some trepidation.
Of course this is a big problem with having such a biased, compr
BBC doesn't claim she is trans anymore because police investigated and saw her calling herself as a female in her social media history.
She used male aliases (no idea for what) and that is reported
Also, do you think that booking photo where they are clearly listed as non-hispanic is fake?
The police described her as a Hispanic female at their presser and I've seen no reporting that says otherwise, not that it's remotely relevant to the shooting. At least put some effort into these lies.
There is also the small fact that a "hero with a gun" is the one that stopped the shooter before they were able to kill anyone, which obviously isn't convenient to left wing anti-gun narratives.
Truly bizarre story with many politics/society/culture war related subplots. There is about 10 different threads in this forum this story could go in as a discussion piece.
Strangely enough, the most obvious discussion point is the one that you have chosen not to mention.
The police described her as a Hispanic female at their presser and I've seen no reporting that says otherwise, not that it's remotely relevant to the shooting. At least put some effort into these lies.
Imho it's relevant, if it's a biological female who gave birth to the child she brought with her and the church is linked to the divorce proceedings and the subsequent custody battle, then we can breath more comfortably because of no actual terrorist link.
I mean it's low probability to begin with, but if she is part of a terrorist cell there might be others; if she's just crazy that's basically it.
The hero's with the guns were fully trained to use that gun as well .
I can only imagine the carnage if those two off duty police officers were not there
Strangely enough, the most obvious discussion point is the one that you have chosen not to mention.
Having "Palestine" written on the gun? I think you can just lump that into the "antisemitic' bin (which I did mention) and move on. I would be surprised if this person could find Israel/Palestine on a map.
This is a veering slightly off topic, but of all the mentally ill/leftwing activist types that are suddenly interested in the Palestinian cause, I suspect there is very little actually enduring concern for the Palestinian people, or more generally the well-being of people thousands of miles away at all.
It is just the topic de jour of the hour that fits neatly into more general themes of anti-Western ideology; which ironically now includes being anti-semitic, because progressive ideology in 2024 considers Jews as avatars of the white oppressor class.
Imho it's relevant, if it's a biological female who gave birth to the child she brought with her and the church is linked to the divorce proceedings and the subsequent custody battle, then we can breath more comfortably because of no actual terrorist link.
I mean it's low probability to begin with, but if she is part of a terrorist cell there might be others; if she's just crazy that's basically it.
By all accounts there is an extremely long history of mental illness and criminal behavior. Given this, I dont think it is really warranted to speculate too much there is some bigger conspiracy.
I guess I shouldn't be holding my breath waiting for the BBC article where it is reported the shooter was actually trans. As strange as it sounds, it seems this person might actually be a heterosexual biological female that sometimes uses male pseudonyms and identifies as male. So I guess falls in the "non-binary" bin.
By all accounts there is an extremely long history of mental illness and criminal behavior. Given this, I dont think it is really warranted to speculate too much there is some bigger conspiracy.
Ye but let investigators finish their job to be sure. Elements for now do not suggest terrorist cells are involved in any way i agree.
I guess I shouldn't be holding my breath waiting for the BBC article where it is reported the shooter was actually trans. As strange as it sounds, it seems this person might actually be a biological female that sometimes uses male pseudonyms and identifies as male. So I guess falls in the "non-binary" bin.
It's entirely possible for a transgender person to be an attempted mass shooter, but is there any evidence that this person was transgender (aside from using a male alias on occasion for whatever reason)?
This is a veering slightly off topic, but of all the mentally ill/leftwing activist types that are suddenly interested in the Palestinian cause, I suspect there is very little actually enduring concern for the Palestinian people, or more generally the well-being of people thousands of miles away at all.
It is just the topic de jour of the hour that fits neatly into more general themes of anti-Western ideology; which ironically now includes being anti-semitic, because progressive ideology in 202
That actually has always been the case at least in europe.
the anti-semitism as well, because of the stereotypical "finance is the worst form of capitalism, and the jews control the banks" antisemite take
This is the issue I had in mind. If people with long histories of mental illness didn't have such easy access to guns, then maybe the "good guys with guns" wouldn't be put in a position of having to shoot them.
or you know if having being arrested 6 times was enough to give up on the hope you are fixable...
ZOMG it's not even been 48 hours and different media sources are giving different reports about the precise background of the shooter....CONSPIRACY!!!11!!!!11!!
Or, you know, it could be that a little patience is in order?
Entire news networks are dedicated to spreading the lie that America is weak,
spreading the lie that the U.S. military is not the strongest in the world. Those are lies.
The hatred for America continues from the extreme MAGA Trumpers.
Why do they hate America? Why do they fly their flags upside-down?
One sick man says, "Let’s keep the southern border in chaos for another year," and says, "You can blame me."
Okay, Donald, I’m blaming you. Because we had a solution for the southern border, and you said no.
Donald Trump says,
"Keep the fentanyl flooding in for another year.
Keep the illegal immigrants flooding in for another year.
Keep the humanitarian crisis growing for another year,
making the lives of people who live on the border — a living hell."
Border Patrol, the men and women who put their lives on the line every day and are fighting an unwinnable
battle right now because they’re not getting the resources they need from politicians in Washington, D.C.
They beg Republicans to pass this bill. What do Republicans tell them? "Drop dead."
Republicans have abandoned their patriotism and complain about the U.S.'s economic success
Entire news networks are dedicated to spreading the lie that America is weak,
spreading the lie that the U.S. military is not the strongest in the world. Those are lies.
The hatred for America continues from the extreme MAGA Trumpers.
Why do they hate America? Why do they fly their flags upside-down?
One sick man says, "Let’s keep the southern border in chaos for another year," and says, "You can blame me."
Okay, Donald, I’m blaming you. Because we had a solution for the southern border, and you sa
Let’s be clear the party that hates Americans is the Democrats
Oh Trumps making the border political HR2 is on the table and Biden blaming Trump Biden left it wide open the day he came in
Whataboutism number 1,222,121.
The media is really slow rolling the identity and motives of the KC parade shooters. Whatever happened, we know it doesn't fit any approved narratives, other than "guns bad."
Or, of course, the very opposite is happening:
shooting near Chiefs parade
CNN
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Police are working to figure out who opened fire and why after they say one person was killed and more than 20 wounded at the end of the Kansas City Chiefs’ Super Bowl victory rally Wednesday, sending fans in red jerseys running for cover as law enforcement swarmed the area, confetti still blowing in the wind.
The media is really slow rolling the identity and motives of the KC parade shooters. Whatever happened, we know it doesn't fit any approved narratives, other than "guns bad."
You obviously have some ideas about what really happened, and you obviously don't think those ideas fit any "approved narratives," whatever that means.
So enlighten us.