Covid-19 Discussion
Has the wisdom and courage to realize that the cure has now become worse than the disease. It's time to open up. Stop moving the ball.
Hospital systems have not been overwhelmed.
Ventilators are not in shortage.
Treatments are being developed.
There is no cure or vaccine. This is not going away for four years.
The devastation of the cure:
Suicide rates picking up.
Massive economic devastation which causes depression, anxiety, obesity, again increase in suicide rates and directly impacts poorer economic areas.
Alcohol sales up 51%.
Domestic Abuse on the uprise
Child abuse on the uprise.
Hospitals that do not have COVID related issues are forced to lay off doctors and nurses as there are not enough patients to economically support it, meaning they won't have the staff to deal with COVID outbreaks.
Michael Avenatti gets released from prison
We all did our part. We sheltered (here in Pennsylvania for 5 weeks already).
Open the office buildings. Open the hair saloons. Get rid of stupid mask laws.
Continue to monitor outbreaks and in areas hospital systems become threatened, reenact tougher guidelines.
LET'S GET BACK TO WORK!
And stop shaming people that want common sense solutions. Waiting for a vaccine is stupid and unpractical.
You're still having trouble grasping the concept of circumstantial evidence. What I described was exactly that. It was proof enough for the medical president of that state to go on record to declare that fake vouchers were being written. And the doctor's own colleagues went on record to say the same thing.
My advice to you is when you are in a hole stop digging.
This is getting boring anyway. Unless you can come up with something better I'm out.
Which is how every argument for you ends. We'll see you next week, when you find the next anti-vaxx toilet paper "study" to share with us that takes us all of 5 minutes to disprove.
You're still having trouble grasping the concept of circumstantial evidence. What I described was exactly that. It was proof enough for the medical president of that state to go on record to declare that fake vouchers were being written. And the doctor's own colleagues went on record to say the same thing.
Just saying fake vouchers are being written and not mentioning by whom is not evidence (circumstantial or otherwise) against that one doctor. You seem to be the one having trouble with grasping the concept of evidence, not me.
By the way are you familiar with the concept innocent until proven guilty?
Which is how every argument for you ends. We'll see you next week, when you find the next anti-vaxx toilet paper "study" to share with us that takes us all of 5 minutes to disprove.
Well, you haven't disproved the fact that you are a liar. And I've given you a lot longer than five minutes to do so.
Well, you haven't disproved the fact that you are a liar. And I've given you a lot longer than five minutes to do so.
Not surprising considering your threshold for proof on all the vaccine misinformation you choose to believe. You don't have a great track record on knowing when someone is lying to you.
Not surprising considering your threshold for proof on all the vaccine misinformation you choose to believe. You don't have a great track record on knowing when someone is lying to you.
Dude, you believe the "safe and effective" bullshit so your own judgement isn't that great to be fair.
And by the way
Spoiler
you're still a liar.
Dude, you believe the "safe and effective" bullshit so your own judgement isn't that great to be fair.
And by the way
Spoiler
you're still a liar.
I would be insulted if you didn't think I was a liar - that would mean I somehow wound up on the same side of an issue as you about anything.
Looking forward to the next "study" you share with us, the one that finally proves you were right all along. There has to be a basement-dweller somewhere working on it as we speak. Maybe it'll be a correlation between the vaccine and deadly lactose intolerance.
His patients could have received shots from a bad batch. You never know. There is conjecture that some batches were worse than others as far as adverse effects go.
Conjecture by who? Sounds a lot like Trump's "People are saying..." nonsense.
Another possible factor is that many doctors may not be reporting vax injuries as it could put their careers in jeopardy. Maybe this guy is just one of the brave ones who puts his patients above his career. In which case it would indeed suck to be him.
That's why the CDC created the vaccine safety monitoring system, to identify doctors reporting vax injuries so they would know which doctors to go after. Makes perfect sense.
Never seen such scientific fact , as Brian james claiming , to be so hard to find or prove that he is right…..
But hey , he found a book and a bias doctor (since it defies any normal statistical curve of the exemptions he did) it’s all good .
That’s the core definition of science for BJ .
He don’t under it’s the opposite , he would need to find countless of doctors with similar distribution curve of vaccine exemption or w.e hé try to use to prove is nonsense .
Never seen such scientific fact , as Brian james claiming , to be so hard to find or prove that he is right…..
But hey , he found a book and a bias doctor (since it defies any normal statistical curve of the exemptions he did) it’s all good .
That’s the core definition of science for BJ .
He don’t under it’s the opposite , he would need to find countless of doctors with normal distribution curve of vaccine exemption or w.e hé try to use to prove is nonsense .
It's prototypical anti-vaxxer - start with an uneducated, emotion-based, unfounded conclusion, then spend all your time working backwards to try and prove it's right, desperately searching and presenting "research" from fellow anti-vaxxers quoting the same nonsense as them. It's like a circle-jerk but with URLs as the handjob.
I wasn't talking to you dickwad.
But yeah, it did help.
It reminded me that you are just as brainwashed and clueless as your buddy over here.
Please stop with the insults. I usually refer to an exchange of insults as "childish name calling" but now we have a case of a name I actually havent heard used since I was a child(which was a very long time ago).
So please be careful about this.
Thanks
It reminded me that you are just as brainwashed and clueless as your buddy over here.
Quick reminder of the insurmountable amount of data compiled by qualified scientists and verified by qualified peer-reviewers that completely undermines all the blog articles by unqualified grifters that you subscribe to:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/...
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanwp...
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...
Sources of Funding
This study was supported by an unrestricted grant from Læge Sofus Carl Emil Friis og Hustru Olga Doris Friis’ Legat. The sponsor had no influence on the study design, interpretation of results, or the decision to submit the manuscript for publication.
Declaration of Competing Interest
The authors declare that they have no known competing financial interests or personal relationships that could have appeared to influence the work reported in this paper.
Good luck.
Quick reminder of the insurmountable amount of data compiled by qualified scientists and verified by qualified peer-reviewers that completely undermines all the blog articles by unqualified grifters that you subscribe to:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
The very first study.
Risk of Worsening Heart Failure and All-Cause Mortality Following COVID-19 Vaccination in Patients With Heart Failure: A Nationwide Real-World Safety Study
So the study looks at the increased risk of heart failure in patients with heart failure. Well, of course there's going to be no increased risk of heart failure. They are already suffering from heart failure. LOLOLOLOLOLOL. This is just stupid stuff. That's like doing a study on the increased risk of death in people who are already dead.
Needless to say I won't waste my time looking at your other "studies".
Lol Gorgo. You never fail to shoot yourself in the foot. Keep up the good work buddy. ( I'm not allowed to use that other word, so I wont.)
The very first study.
So the study looks at the increased risk of heart failure in patients with heart failure. Well, of course there's going to be no increased risk of heart failure. They are already suffering from heart failure. LOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Reading is fundamental. The title of the study is:
"Risk of Worsening Heart Failure and All-Cause Mortality Following COVID-19 Vaccination in Patients With Heart Failure"
Not:
"Increased risk of heart failure Following COVID-19 Vaccination in Patients With Heart Failure"
There are many pharmaceutical interventions that increa..., which is why the vaccine was tested against the group.
Read more, post less.
Lol. So the other genius turns up trying to defend his buddie's face plant. And fails miserably of course.
You two should start a comedy duo.
Dude, the study's laughable just like you are.
The very first study.
So the study looks at the increased risk of heart failure in patients with heart failure. Well, of course there's going to be no increased risk of heart failure. They are already suffering from heart failure. LOLOLOLOLOLOL. This is just stupid stuff. That's like doing a study on the increased risk of death in people who are already dead.
Needless to say I won't waste my time looking at your other "studies".
Lol Gorgo. You never fail to shoot yourself in the foot. Keep up the
Holy crap. Talk about completely not even understanding what you're looking at.
They looked at THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE and THERE STILL WAS NO INCREASED RISK OF PROBLEMS.
The other two are huge population studies so even that pathetic attempt at an excuse isn't there for those, so of course you run as fast as you can.
Maybe I should post some blogs by stand-up comedians and self-employed data analysts. That might be better.
f**ing lol
The very first study.
So the study looks at the increased risk of heart failure in patients with heart failure. Well, of course there's going to be no increased risk of heart failure. They are already suffering from heart failure. LOLOLOLOLOLOL. This is just stupid stuff. That's like doing a study on the increased risk of death in people who are already dead.
Needless to say I won't waste my time looking at your other "studies".
Lol Gorgo. You never fail to shoot yourself in the foot. Keep up the
The logic of brian.
many medications should not be taken by pregnant women for possible risk to the baby .
Hence the medication is dangerous and not good...
or so many others medication that said dont use that medication if u have diabetes, etc.
Hell they even say to people with heart problems dont go shoveling snow too hard during winter.
So shoveling snow is dangerous too...
when i went in the US and watch tv, every single commercial on medication at the end had a endless list of not taking the medication if u suffer X problems already..
But hey thats ok.
Oh look. It's the other half of the comedy duo. Right on cue.
Me:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/...
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanwp...
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...
Sources of Funding
This study was supported by an unrestricted grant from Læge Sofus Carl Emil Friis og Hustru Olga Doris Friis’ Legat. The sponsor had no influence on the study design, interpretation of results, or the decision to submit the manuscript for publication.
Declaration of Competing Interest
The authors declare that they have no known competing financial interests or personal relationships that could have appeared to influence the work reported in this paper.
Brian James:
The very first study.
That's like doing a study on the increased risk of death in people who are already dead.
This has got to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Like actually braindead stupid.
For the record, before you make yourself look worse, you should look up the medical term "heart failure." It doesn't mean what you think it means.
