Mohegan Sun (Uncasville, CT)

Do you even play at Mohegan? Or are you just chiming in to purposefully dump on PLO? You people really hate fun on this site and it shows.

I've seen it around as long as I've been in the game at all (~10 years). And I've seen countless promotions for it on WPN. I know it's very popular and I see it being played at high stakes with things that I like: Straddle+ante, bomb pots, etc. I'll load it up at micros soon here and start feeling it out.

Looks like they changed the Saturday tournament to $350 every week. Personally, I'm not a fan of that. The field will be smaller every weekend now. I think the move of having it once a month was smart and got people in because they felt it was a "special" event there. The $160 field was always big, and BEYOND soft.

it also makes it take forever for cash tables to open on Saturday, which is the best day of the week there

they just never do anything right

schedule a 600 or something, forget these 350s

Run a $550 like Foxwoods used to on Saturdays back in the hey day. Start it nice and early so it can start breaking

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this is by far the dumbest thing posted so far this year

it is 100% cheating, sandwich raising a 3rd player out then checking down is the textbook definition of collusion

your over the top defense must mean you are one of the offenders

Action player steamrolled table!

IMO majority of PLO is shifting from FW to Mohegan. With 1-2 games running daily and few times a week 3 games.

Last Saturday 1 of the regular action players absolutely crush the game. Looked like he had 25K in front of him, winning almost every pot.
Is that a record for capped games?
Does he always run hot?

I was on the MM but every 3 minutes I saw him shoveling 100's and then scooping them back up.
One of the wildest heaters I've seen in the last 10 years. Players buying in North to try to stack him, but he couldn't miss.

Another player went as far of accusing Stating he receives special treatment.

Not even sure how that's possible, but the 2/5 PLO @ Mohegan is by far best game in the state lately.

So anyone have a report on the first two weekends of the new Saturday tournament?

Mohegan Sun had the worst tournament fields for years and then I stopped playing there. I once played in like a $250 tournament that paid 18 players and we got down to 17 I was short stack with like 9 blinds (I had just lost AK vs AJ all in pre-flop) and the two chip leaders asked if we wanted to chop evenly 17 ways. All of the other players had less than 20 blinds so we chopped it. Seriously.

I will be going on March 2nd and the reason I will be there is that Foxwoods has a Friday tournament and their regular Sunday tournament. But even moving forward given that Foxwoods Sunday tournament is every week it is a very smart idea by management. Will it work though? Depends on how they handle their tournaments now (see below)

They may go for a big tourney once a month but they are raising it from a $160 to $350 so its a shot to have bigger tournies.

The reason I stopped playing in tournaments at Mohegan Sun (MS) around 2016 was because this happened:

They had a $300 tournament and you started with 15,000 chips and 30 minute levels (I think). There were 9 tables at the start. Then about 15 to 30 minutes later they filled a tenth table with new entries and started it up. But the problem was they gave every player 20,000 chips. I found this out because a regular at Foxwoods (FW) bounced and went to the cage to buy back in and was given 15,000 chips. Which he complained to the Floor about, and found out that all the other tables had started with 15,000. The Floor said they would look into it. My buddy passed my table and told me the story. So I went up to the Floor about 10 minutes later to find out what was going to be done about it. I was told that the Floor hadn't yet looked into it. Seriously. But they were going to.

So about 10 minutes later I bounced and went up the Floor and asked what they found out. They still hadn't gone to review the Video. Then I asked what would happen if they found out that Table 10 did start everybody with 20,000 chips. And I was told they didn't know. They were going to the video room right then and would be back in 5 minutes. I waited 5 minutes and no sign of the Floor so I walked across the casino to the Gaming Commission.

I filed an account of what had happened and the Secretary who was there told me her boss (the head of the commission) was off that day but she would try to get in touch. She didn't know anything about poker so she didn't know what would be done if it was true. I got back to the poker room and the Floor still wasn't back so I bought into a cash game because no way I was going to buy in for 15,000 chips and be up against players who started with 20,000 chips.

The Floor came back and indeed they had started with 20,000 chips at Table 10 but the Floor still hadn't been apprised of what was to be done. The Floor offered me a food coupon (to stop my emotional tirade I would guess) but I declined it and said I would take it only if they offered it to every player who had bought in for 15,000 chips. Which was a mere pittance because the correct amount of money to give players would be about $100 each because 5,000 chips is 33% of our starting stack.

The final decision was to do nothing. That's right. Nothing. The Gaming Commissioner had ruled on it and I was told he had spoken with the head of the poker room (who wasn't there but was a friend) and was told that would be the best plan. Now there were many possible solutions to make it right. Like giving all the players at Table 1 through 9 an extra 5,000 chips. Or reducing the stacks of all players at Table 10 by 25%. Or removing 5,000 chips from each player (eliminating some possibly...). Giving back all Table 10 players their buy-in and allowing them to re-enter for 15,000 chips. But yes they decided on none of that.

So I didn't go back for about a year and a half. I went back to see if they had corrected things. Like announcing the chip stack size at the beginning of each tournament so all dealers would hear it. Or have a Floor walk over to each table as it started up and verify with the dealers that chip stacks were correct. And especially never starting a new table with only late entrants. Move some players from the other tables because guess what? They will immediately know if people are getting too many chips. But incredibly they did nothing to make sure starting stacks were the same at all tables. I then talked to a Floor who had been a dealer at FW. And he had never been told about what had happened. So I haven't been back since.

But I am going on March 2nd. My guess is that the Floors will not have been told about that fiasco or how to make sure it doesn't happen again. Which in reality is very very unlikely. But my problem with the room isn't about preventing this specifically but it's about how they aren't willing to stand up for the players and defend them when the room makes a mistake and instead are only looking at their profit.

Still the field should be awful. So there's that.

^That’s outrageous but doesn’t come as a surprise. They are awful at running tourneys there and have been for years.

Floors are notoriously terrible there as well. Bad attitudes. Pointless must moves for 2/5 when they have four games open and a list. Favoritism with sh** regs. I could go on.

Btw this new policy they have in tourneys where re-entrants get priority over late entries is completely mental. You can drive all the way there and plan to enter late and get locked out from entering because someone who already dusted it gets to skip the alternate line. It’s so backwards and bad for business it makes my head spin. It’s also a complete cluster and creates unnecessary work (much like the pointless must move system at 2/5).

Mohegan Sun: The only place I've ever played 11 handed ... AT A FINAL TABLE!!

Pretty sure it was the same $300 weekend crap show. We told the floor we could all just go back to our regular two table seats since all 11 players remember where they were, but nope. They didn't trust us. Let's play on with a frigging 11 handed final table!

Turning away the players during the last flight of the holiday tourney after Xmas was horrible too. Players bought in like 30 minutes late and never got seated as they didn't allow alts to come in late a couple levels after registration closed with starting stack still being 25bb. They just sent them home. Guessing it cost them another 400+ buyins because it probably happened in the another three flights as well.

They have a 600 100k in late March. Same re-entry system.

I love how they make the last flight on a Thursday and day 2 on Friday so anyone with a 9-5 would have to take 2 days off instead of Friday and day 2 be Saturday idk must not want to take dealers from the Saturday morning cash games I guess

The $600 is interesting. Looks like they're open to diversifying their tournament offerings. They have so much extra room now, that it really shouldn't be a problem to have these big events on a Saturday. Not to mention it would drive so much foot traffic to the cash tables and nearby slot machines on a weekend.

So again, has anyone been playing the new Saturday tournament? How have the field sizes been?

They don’t have enough staff (and floor space) for big tourneys and cash to run at the same time. They clearly prefer to cater to cash games. I’m assuming they pull in more rake there.

I played the Saturday $350 once this month and it had around 170 entrants.

Three weeks of Saturday $350 tourney numbers about 211, 175, and 148. Roughly.

Interesting drop in attendance each week. I think this will change to a $250 or less buy-in soon. Not sure how sustainable a weekend $350 is with the weak fields blowing through their buy-ins at twice the rate of before, and the the FW weekend competition. I like the larger buy-in once a month and maybe two or three times a year doing a little 4-6 tournament series

What is the spread in stakes for live cash here? I guess it starts at 1/3? How high do the games run?

Not bad. Thank you! Cap = max I can buy in for?

Correct. You will still find lots of short stacks at 1/2, but not very many in the higher stakes games.

Ty again ♣

I played the Monday and they had 7-8 alternates before they decided to add a 7th table to the tournament. They clearly didn’t want to “waste” a dealer on the mtt.

So you pay the extra $5 for the dealers (for extra chips) and then they understaff their dealers.

Even in an empty room with dealers they were still hesitant to add another table/dealer.

How many status points do you get per hour playing 1-2nl, 2-5nl, 2-5plo and 5-Tnl?

2,3,3,4