Wind Creek Bethlehem (formerly Sands Casino·Resort) (Bethlehem, PA)
Anyone with questions about the Poker room at the Sands Casino Resort in Bethlehem post them here. I with follow up with answers as soon as possible.
Opening day is pending state approval but should be around July 7-9
Short Summary
12 Poker Tables which will be all cash games at this time. (Pa has not approved tournament style games at this time)
Shufflers on all games
Table side ratings
Competitive comps
Plasma tvs and lounge area
Food Service likely
Experienced Floor Staff.
This room has declined overall in my opinion over the past year since the opening of the new room. Just overall action is lacking, specifically at the 1-2 games. It’s rare you find a good game here anymore, room is filled with tight regulars with little to no action at most games. I’ve sat multiple sessions were there isn’t a single rebuy at the table for hours. Just wandering if anyone who plays here often has noticed a drop off in game quality?
The entire casino has declined overall in the last few years, not just the poker room. I play here regularly just because it’s the closest option to where I live in NJ. But I think I may start taking the extra few minutes drive to parx or even borgata. During the week it’s like going to home game. The “omc” regulars pretty much run the room. Just this Tuesday, I’m waiting for a new game to open about 10am, they call 9 names from the list, 5 of the older guys (who are all regulars) come over and I hear the one guy say “we are waiting for another table to open so we can all play together” WTF?!?!? Just stay home and play with no rake if that’s the case.
As for the rest of the casino, it’s filled with the most degenerate annoying people. The homeless bums hanging around begging for money, the non gamblers sleeping in the food court area. Security doesn’t give a damn. I’ve never seen more people standing over your shoulder at a table game then I have at this place, and when you ask the pit boss or dealer to ask them to sit down and play or walk away, they don’t say a word.
The entire casino has declined overall in the last few years, not just the poker room. I play here regularly just because it’s the closest option to where I live in NJ. But I think I may start taking the extra few minutes drive to parx or even borgata. During the week it’s like going to home game. The “omc” regulars pretty much run the room. Just this Tuesday, I’m waiting for a new game to open about 10am, they call 9 names from the list, 5 of the older guys (who a
I've been playing here regularly since it opened with 12 tables, and yes we used to get poker rates for hotels which was at least a 30 dollar discount, now we get nothing but I still get 5 or 10 dollar free plays every day with some cash outs of over 30 dollars so that all goes towards the rakeback and it's on top of the 70 cents we make an hour.
The people hanging around there all day take the buses from NYC (not PABT) only to sell their vouchers and hang around till it's time to leave. The NYT did a story about them a few years ago. I've also seen one of them, a short elderly fat asian laday red-handed grab someone's ticket that they just printed out from a machine. They drew my attention while I was walking right bye them when the lady was saying "give that back to me, give it back" while having a tug of war with the ticket. I got it back for the lady then alerted the closest security guard I could find who was near the cage. He was holding an empty birdcage while I was pointing her out to him, but he claimed he couldn't leave his spot and radioed his dispatcher only to watch her run away. He didn't seem too surprised by it either, the look on his face looked like he was saying "oh no not another one".
With regards to letting players watch low limit table games, they're not gonna chase people away because they want the players to watch then eventually come in and play (I was a casino manager on a boat, so that's just coming from their perspective).
The 1/2 regs that play in the morning are just there to pass their time and have fun while playing together but you don't have to sit in a game that you don't like, just go on the list for a new game or ask for a transfer to another one, they're good about table changes which is pretty much the only reason I play there, the only other room close to me has a 2/5 must move so I'd rather not have to drive an hour only to be stuck in a horrible game.
Today in the 2/5 game a player was going all in almost every other hand for about 5 to 6 hundred, half the times it was a blind all in pre, and in another game people were extremely loose passive with a lot of 35 dollar opens going 5 or 6 ways but I've sat in my share of tight horrible 2/5 games over the past week but I always transfer right out of them.
I think their biggest mistake when they re-opened was not going to 1/3 like Borgata and Parx did and keeping it at 1/2 just to satisfy the aforementioned players. I think a 1/3 with a 500 dollar max and a raked 2/5 game for 1500 would have drawn in a lot more people that are instead going to Parx for a their 1/3 game.
The "endless commute" hasn't changed much in 10 years
Today's tournament has just been cancelled. Only had 5 people register.
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I deleted a couple of posts that had pics of players. A reminder, no identifying info of a player is allowed itt and photos just make the cut of identifying info. 😀
I usually get $10 but this $5 free play got turned into a quick $70 = free dinner !!
I e.o.'d yest, won $27 in free play and got another one for today already
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So I have been going to Wind Creek on occasional Friday nights(once or twice a month) after 8pm. I typically only play 1/2 NL there. I found that sometimes despite calling in ahead of time for a seat that I would have to wait over 1.5 - 2 hours before I get to sit down. All 20 tables are in use. I get that there is a $400 promo high hand per half hour from 8pm-12 midnight and it’s a Friday night but these wait times can be really unbearable sometimes. I wish that the poker room allowed up to 30 tables. I wonder how the 2/5 games are during these times . I assume there may be a similar wait at 2/5 because they only run around 2-3 tables.
If you're able to arrive before 7 it will make a world of a difference. Personally I wouldn't wanna arrive at 8pm on a Friday if I can help it but that's just me.
sorry to start a conspiracy theory...
but has anyone else noticed guys with phones on the table ledge that they aren't using for regular phone stuff (never see them pick it up to text, call, skip a song, etc) all angled so the top is pointing at the center of the table... and they always have big stacks? i've run into 3 of these guys that i've noticed so far. none of them are getting wildly out of line nor being obvious (so maybe i'm just being paranoid) but i watched them all build big stacks by calling down bluffs with mid/weak hands in heads up pots... and way too consistently... like hands where a guy who's playing tight all night will often get into a bloated pot with a low pocket pair and call or a bottom pair.
i'm suspicious of something on these large clunky phones.
i've only noticed it at wind creek. i don't play here often (i play wherever i'm traveling too.. i live in florida).
let me know if anyone else observes some consistently suspicious play with a large cell phone pointed towards dealer.
sorry to start a conspiracy theory...
but has anyone else noticed guys with phones on the table ledge that they aren't using for regular phone stuff (never see them pick it up to text, call, skip a song, etc) all angled so the top is pointing at the center of the table... and they always have big stacks? i've run into 3 of these guys that i've noticed so far. none of them are getting wildly out of line nor being obvious (so maybe i'm just being paranoid) but i watched them all build big stacks b
I don't think if it's on the rail it can do anything sinister. I keep my phone on the rail up side down and sometimes if I have a coffee or a drink it's facing straight ahead but the camera's on the back facing the ceiling.
The only thing I do hate is when some of their dealers let players text while they're in a hand.
It's my birthday I now have $45 in free slot pulls!! I'm gonna play 5 dollar hands on the $1 wheel of fortune
i think there is more chance than not that i'm just being paranoid... and i don't know how it would give advantage... but all three guys had similar large-ish phones. they all had what looked like an plastic IR screen at the top of it and they all had it pointed straight ahead.. .perpendicular to the rail.
and they always got to the river with weak pairs... usually against AK... but they would never be in there against AA, KK, QQ, JJ. it just felt like they were super users who could see hole cards in a live game.
even typing it i feel a bit silly... but just seeing if anyone else noticed a pattern of big stacks with guys with similar phones positioned the same way on the rail
carry on... i'll still come play here... i'm not totally convinced of cheating myself
i think there is more chance than not that i'm just being paranoid... and i don't know how it would give advantage... but all three guys had similar large-ish phones. they all had what looked like an plastic IR screen at the top of it and they all had it pointed straight ahead.. .perpendicular to the rail.
and they always got to the river with weak pairs... usually against AK... but they would never be in there against AA, KK, QQ, JJ. it just felt like they were super users who could see hole ca
Anything is possible. What game do they play? Are they on the same table?
There's nothing wrong with talking to the shift manage (not a dual rate, ask who's in charge of the shift) point them out to him so at least he's aware of their presence and will keep an eye on them. If he sees it needs to be looked into further he can report it to surveillance. It might be nothing, but you never know.
it was 1/2NL. last time it was only one guy at table. time before that there were two guys at same table.
if it was any kind of cheating all three were good at picking spots and being patient... nothing too obvious. but once i had a suspicion i started noting every big pot they would get in and they never lost at showdown, often with marginal hands.
it was 1/2NL. last time it was only one guy at table. time before that there were two guys at same table.
if it was any kind of cheating all three were good at picking spots and being patient... nothing too obvious. but once i had a suspicion i started noting every big pot they would get in and they never lost at showdown, often with marginal hands.
ok if you're playing this weekend send me a pm if he's there so you can point them out to me then.
probably won't be back for a month or two. but i'll pm next time i'm there if i notice. keep an eye out all. good luck at the tables.
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sorry to start a conspiracy theory...
but has anyone else noticed guys with phones on the table ledge that they aren't using for regular phone stuff (never see them pick it up to text, call, skip a song, etc) all angled so the top is pointing at the center of the table... and they always have big stacks? i've run into 3 of these guys that i've noticed so far. none of them are getting wildly out of line nor being obvious (so maybe i'm just being paranoid) but i watched them all build big stacks b
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