Talk About Movies: Part 4

Talk About Movies: Part 4

Somehow threads merged, so here's part 4 of our ongoing movie discussion.

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He was perhaps trying to love his enemies, as best he could. Inconceivable, that instruction. And his personal approach to living it.


by rickroll k

Just saw Casablanca in a theater

was first time seeing the film

it was good, but don't think it'd be a top 10 film if it came out in the past decade

and a 1941 Studebaker probably wouldn't match the gas milage and speed of a 2024 car, either. What's your point?


by Schlitz mmmm k

https://www.google.com/search?q=gandhi+o...

He was perhaps trying to love his enemies, as best he could. Inconceivable, that instruction. And his personal approach to living it.

Have you read Gandhi's autobiography? Highly readable, and somewhat promotional, as are all autobiographies, but it only goes up to the first textile strike after he returns to India.

For after that, I read Gandhi's Truth by Eric Ericson.


Casablanca would definitely not be a top-10 film if it came out in the 1930s.


the thing about casablanca is literally nobody is likeable so you're not rooting for anyone and even if you were, there's zero suspense about it and no thoughts as to whether or not they'll make it


by rickroll k

Just saw Casablanca in a theater

was first time seeing the film

it was good, but don't think it'd be a top 10 film if it came out in the past decade

If it were released today, it would develop a cult following, then be recognized as a masterpiece.

Note that in the first 40 minutes...

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...Nothing happens!

Who would make that today? Who *Could* make that today?

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Wolverine's first car chase must begin at minute 27!


i'd say the first hour and a half nothing happens


rick, you're a good poster, but this take....wow. 😃


if a man can't imagine himself as a washed up bogart turning down dimes because ingrid bergman once ripped his heart out then i don't know what to tell you

otherwise casablanca is just one of the most professionally made films of all time. the script and the visual film language


by rickroll k

the thing about casablanca is literally nobody is likeable so you're not rooting for anyone and even if you were, there's zero suspense about it and no thoughts as to whether or not they'll make it

It was finished 8 months after Pearl Harbor. It didn't need suspense because nobody knew what was going to happen.


by Phat Mack k

Have you read Gandhi's autobiography? Highly readable, and somewhat promotional, as are all autobiographies, but it only goes up to the first textile strike after he returns to India.

For after that, I read Gandhi's Truth by Eric Ericson.

I'll do that.

Just starting Myth America. Read Jason Van Tattenhove's? account of his time with the Oath Keepers. He's not a good writer, but I pushed through. Some of his phraseology is like dude. And it rolls off the tongue.... almost


by Phat Mack k

It was finished 8 months after Pearl Harbor. It didn't need suspense because nobody knew what was going to happen.

And written before Pearl Harbor. It's ideology is pretty clear: "They're asleep all over America."

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by Pokerlogist k

I dunno what will or should win Oscars this year except for Best Actress should be Sandra Hüller for great performances in two nominated movies.

I’ve seen Killers of the Flower Moon twice, Poor Things, Maestro, Anatomy of a Fall, and Zone of Interest - and if I had a vote I just can’t see myself picking anyone other than Emma Stone. Her performance is just as dramatic as all the others but she’s also utterly hilarious and quite vulnerable. I wouldn’t be mad to see Lily or Huller win though as they were both incredible. I adore Mulligan and she was great but I do think she’s at least a notch behind the others here.


Emma Stone was very good, but hers is the sort of loud, transformational performance that is total Oscar bait. It would be nice to see the less obvious performance win.


by Rooksx k

Emma Stone was very good, but hers is the sort of loud, transformational performance that is total Oscar bait. It would be nice to see the less obvious performance win.

I find it difficult to judge film performances, and it seems the Academy does, too.

Sandra Huller for me.

I never expected her repressed character to sing, but her dad, dressed in a fright wig and wearing false teeth, helps his daughter to consider who she is.
https://youtu.be/pzQ8c7suff4?si=M52ewYi4...

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Im tempted to fire Huller at +1250. I could see it.


by Dominic k

rick, you're a good poster, but this take....wow. 😃

And Rick is banned, which is such an oddity considering his (balanced) posting across numerous threads...


Past Lives, Celine Song, 2023

Wanted to see this before the Oscars and I'm glad I did. Like The Zone Of Interest (and this is the ONLY thing those two films have in common), this is not your traditional Oscar bait film. This is definitely a Spirits Awards kind of film. Shocking the Oscars nominated this for Best Picture.

Gorgeous, beautiful, slight, fraught with emotion...what a movie. It's like reading a Ted Chiang short story. No real plot, just human interaction, wistfulness, and longing. The music ties it all together like a song, connecting the little scenes together neatly. The last scene in the bar made me want to cry it was so perfect. In-yun is a Korean belief that two people have a connection, fate, or destiny in their past lives. It's also known as inyeon, which means " providence" or "fate". And that is the theme here, so wonderfully stated as bookends to the movie.

Greta Lee was also perfect. One of those actors you've seen in a few different things through the years, and then she does something like this and you realize, wow, there are so many great actors out there - some who never get the chance to show it like Lee shows it here. Teo Yoo, who was also in the great Decision To Leave, is also perfect.

May be my favorite movie from last year.


Finished off Oscar nom watching.

Poor Things was interesting and maybe the most.. approachable (?) Yorgos film. If not the most perverse, too. I don't really know what I mean by that, just that it was probably the easiest watch of any of his films. Laughed more in this than Barbie. Thought Emma Stone was great and a deserving winner if she bags the award. Dafoe and Ruffalo were both great as well. 3/5

Zone of Interest was as described. Dark and foreboding yet without any violence or visual depictions of the terror that was going on. One of the more unconventional and better examples of offscreen horror. Eerie to conceive that was actually life for people in that position. Skillfully crafted film. Don't know I'd ever bother to watch it again though. 3/5


How I'd rank the Best Picture noms:

Oppenheimer 4.5/5
Anatomy of a Fall 4/5
American Fiction 4/5
Killers of the Flower Moon 4/5
The Holdovers 3.5/5
Poor Things 3/5
Zone of Interest 3/5
Past Lives 2.5/5
Barbie 2/5
Maestro 2/5

Hope Oppenheimer cleans up.


My ranking of Best Pic noms:

Past Lives
Anatomy Of A Fall
The Holdovers
Oppenheimer
The Zone Of Interest
Poor Things
Killers Of the Flower Moon
Barbie

I think they all have merit...from good to great.

Haven't seen Maestro or American Fiction yet


ok, I just saw American Fiction...

Pretty good, even though it's basically one joke, I did like the relationship between Monk and his family and Coraline. Jeffrey Wright was great, as always. Hard to be funny when you're character is so morose, but he does it well.

I'd put it after Poor Things on my list.


I loved Past Lives. That closing scene where they are standing looking at each other from either end of the screen got to me. It harkens back to when they separate in the first section of the film.

The beginning with all three in the bar as an unknown narrator guesses at who they are is a perfect beginning for this film because we will guess at the same thing throughout the film.

I like films that remind me of little events in my life. One time at a dinner party with about twenty people, an older woman asked my friend if she wanted to sit next to her husband (me). We told her we're friends, and the woman said to her, "But you seem so attached to him."

How do others see us? What do others see that we don't? How do we read other people?

It's my favorite film of those nominated, but I like small films. So I would follow Past Lives with Anatomy of a Fall, Zone of Interest, and The Holdovers.

I liked Oppenheimer and Poor Things. Haven't seen Barbie or American Fiction. Maestro was just okay. Didn't care for Killers of the Flower Moon.

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It was beautiful.


Dom,

Watched Society of the Snow tonight. It made me anxious throughout, and that's praise.

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