Got myself in a jackpot with Big Papa

First adjustment might be not to try hard to get into hands with that villain if you don't have a good hand.

In this example here, there's basically two possible outcomes if you raise. Either he calls and you play your marginal hand out of position or you fold to a 3bet. (Unless you're seriously going to 4bet)

Postflop you have J-high and turn a gut shot. Not very exciting.

Against the player described I am more inclined to checkback turn and make bluffs (including bluff-raise) on the river.

Semi-bluff barrel isn't bad but we have to fold to xr and if villain is sticky, strong player playing smaller than normal we probably have less fold equity than normal.

We're OOP. BB acts before UTG.

I would go for an overbet sizing here. The Ts is almost a brick because there's just so much 7x in your range.

If he truly is a good player then he's floating this flop with a good number of broadway BDFD that will give up here against a double barrel from the BB once the 4th suit comes. With your 8s blocker he only has one combo of 87s to go with two combos of 76s. Even if he continues with 98s or 65s, you're still dominating him.

Big papa is not going to fold. Id give it up. This guy will definitely call you down with ace high

Check yo self before you wreck yo self.

I was wonderin' if Banana was hypnotized by the suited...

Since we're still tryin' to get the loot, get the loot: what would you do with an overpair here, Hero? Do that. Expect a raise at some point. I'd think his straddle connects with this board more than your open would. (And I'd open to 25, but that's minor.)

What are we doing on these different rivers: J/8/3, a 7, high Broadway? Distinguish between Q, K, and A if desired?

Oh, do you know what he likely thinks of you?

Limp pre or fold, probably fold is fine.

Check flop.

No, stop, go back and check flop.

I've been in this exact spot, with the 10/10 player slumming it at 1/3, sitting to my direct left.

My observation is that they don't 3B light pre. If hero raised out of the BB, this guy is only 3B'ing JJ+/AK.

Post-flop, they'll call down wide, but not with total air, and if they have anything at all, they don't like to fold at small stakes.

We can take them to value town, but we can't bluff them.

Limp pre. Check flop.

AP, check turn. Call a small bet, or fold to a big bet. Check-fold river if we don't improve.

Why would they? If I'm in the straddle and a weaker not-tight player opens the BB, I'm just calling super wide and take their money postflop where my edge is certainly much bigger IP than pre. Unless there's something obvious to exploit by 3betting.

That was my point.

idk why you would assume a guy who plays higher is bad at poker re the 3betting thing, esp when villain description says he is capable of 4betting light

the hand just looks to me like a 100bb bvb hand vs competent reg. idk why you would approach it differently. flop is going to be a mix of block and x but turn is a pure bet for like 2/3 pot. find it wild the forum's approach to reasonable players is just complete avoidance. just play good poker and you're going to be fine. he can't magically see through your cards or make hands at a rate higher than other people. all you need to do is play solid poker (note this doesnt mean nut pedal in wide range situations). re the hand, would just look at a solver because i think you're mostly going to get bad takes here tbh. like you have half the thread suggesting open limp or fold j8ss pre in what's a bvb scenario with an additional sb dead, while simultaneously suggesting villain is 3betting 3% of the time

I take it this was directed at me?

I didn't assume he's bad. I said he wouldn't be 3B'ing light when hero raises out of the BB. There's a difference between V opening for a raise, getting 3B, and then 4B'ing light, versus hero raising from the BB, and V 3B'ing light out of the straddle.

When he flat calls pre, and calls hero's c-bet, on this board, he's not doing it with total air. He could have a 77, 44, A7, 65s, 88-TT, maybe even JJ. This board wouldn't seem to favor the BB's pre-flop raising range, and hero just has one over and an inside straight draw.

At the very least, if he's calling wide, he's got two over-cards to the board, and isn't going to call a river bet if hero spikes a miracle 9. If hero catches a J or 8, and bets, V could put him in the blender with a huge raise. Are we going to love calling off with just one pair, weak kicker?

what % do you think a good player is supposed to be 3betting out of the bb vs a sb open? if you think its JJ+,AK you may want to review preflop ranges (it's supposed to be 5-6x as frequently as this). id imagine anyone playing that tight in these positions is just generally not very good

my comment wasn't directed specifically at you, at least one other person said they thought villain wouldn't 3b light. the way this spot works (if you simplify to raise or fold pre) is sb opens ~45% of hands of which a huge amount of are going to be unable to defend vs a reraise

Most humans aren't playing anywhere near close to optimal. This V is a 10/20 player sitting in a 1/3 game. If he's as good as his reputation, he's probably not trying to play GTO, and instead just playing exploitatively at low stakes.

dunno man. thats a weird assumption to make

What point are you trying to make? What do you think V has here, and what are you suggesting hero do?

fold pre, do you think he's folding ATC for 14 dollars?

i think you cbet flops way too much - from your posts sounds like your flop cbet % when 3 handed or less is 100%?

Why would you think OP has a lot of 7x in his range? Few raising hands include a 7, and all he has done since preflop is C-bet against one player who has shown no strength.

I have no idea why we're having a conversation about ranges that are optimal in a vacuum but certainly not in a spot where we play our C-game (tired, should go home) against someone who is described as very good with the while we struggle in OOP spots (based on previous HHs).

So if we talk about villain's range we probably should expect for him to fold very little against our open.

Result:

Raising pre is fine from bb vs straddle. Flop the GTO is range bet of about 25% pot (so $10), because theoretically you mostly maintain your range advantage on a paired board, but vs this villain im just check folding. You should generally be (counterintuitively) overfolding (and over raising, so small calling range) on the flop vs aggressive opponents, because you should expect more action from them on later streets, meaning you basically continue with a stronger range that can stand up to more action (including trapping more often), and youd also raise more.

Also, as played im check raising the turn with my gutshot.