The DooDooPoker Experience

The DooDooPoker Experience

It's long past due I made one of these things but I move at a snails pace so that's pretty typical for me. I need some a

21 January 2024 at 06:20 PM
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The potential hype for a HU4ROLLZ match intensifying!


by swerbs22 k
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What I have shows basically all Donks follow a general trend with sizings. Smaller = weak (b75 or less) and larger = strength (greater than b75). It's so face up it seems unbelievable.

b75 can be weaker than b25 in some cases, however anything above b75 is looking more value driven.

Not always true



Yo ddp dont shut the thread down bro. Its an interesting read. Plus good promo for ur future coachings, plus anything else poker related for u in the future.


by Brokenstars k

I don't know why we are doing this publicly to begin with. And you are right I should have been more tactful and you are also correct in the sense that if you did give it to me that would have been great. I still did not really expect you to give it to me, but thought you might show me how it was organized had the conversation continued rather than instant-block and attempt to publicly shame me on your thread...

You did pay me back the 2k and I'm grateful that you got your conscience back and pai

You can just read whitemares response to know how I felt.

I'm not saying I reacted correctly and even rationally but that's what happened. We can both agree we didn't handle this situation correctly and go our separate ways. There is really no point in even talking about it anymore since nothing will be accomplished from it.


by MicroDonkYT k

Not always true

There are fundamental differences in range composition between Donk100-B-B and XC-Donk100-Bet


by DooDooPoker k

You can just read whitemares response to know how I felt.

I'm not saying I reacted correctly and even rationally but that's what happened. We can both agree we didn't handle this situation correctly and go our separate ways. There is really no point in even talking about it anymore since nothing will be accomplished from it.

Sure.

If you unblock me on discord I can talk with you later tonight. I feel like it would go better if we're on comms and not via text.


by Brokenstars k

Sure.

If you unblock me on discord I can talk with you later tonight. I feel like it would go better if we're on comms and not via text.

If I'm being 100% honest I really don't think our personalities mesh. When I was getting coaching from you in 2021 I felt like you were talking down to me in a bunch of spots and I never said anything and I kind of always held that against you. I think I was mad at myself too for not speaking up about it.

Then when you asked me for the data for free that brought back memories of that and I kind of just flipped out.

I do think you are pretty arrogant in general though. I'm much more comfortable with us just going our separate ways and not trying to patch things up.

I'm sure there are things you don't like about me as well, so I think that is the best course of action and we can just end this song and dance and get back to strategy talk.


Okay, good luck.


There is an overfold OTT here. You can also use a smaller raise sizing OTT if you want.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 2(BB)
HERO ($239.95) [VPIP: 29% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.6% | Flop Agg: 41.5% | Turn Agg: 33.9% | 3Bet: 11.5% | 4Bet: 14.1% | Hands: 325961]
BTN ($230.73) [VPIP: 27.3% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 34]
SB ($207.35) [VPIP: 35.7% | PFR: 28.6% | AGG: 44.4% | Flop Agg: 40% | Turn Agg: 66.7% | 3Bet: 16.7% | Fold to 3Bet: 50% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 28]
BB ($200) [VPIP: 33.3% | PFR: 22.2% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 9]
UTG ($211) [VPIP: 29.7% | PFR: 24.3% | AGG: 42.9% | Hands: 37]
HJ ($200) [VPIP: 13.5% | PFR: 10.8% | AGG: 66.7% | Hands: 37]

Dealt to Hero: T K

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $5, BTN Folds, SB Raises To $21, BB Folds, HERO Calls $16

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.24 effective]
Flop ($44): 6 8 6
SB Bets $26.90 (Rem. Stack: $159.45), HERO Calls $26.90 (Rem. Stack: $192.05)

Turn ($97.80): 6 8 6 7
SB Bets $28.90 (Rem. Stack: $130.55), HERO Raises To $192.05 (allin), SB Folds

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HERO wins: $151.60

The elusive small 5bet prints vs certain sizings/timing tells.

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NL Holdem 2(BB)
HERO ($201.95) [VPIP: 29% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.6% | Hands: 325961]
SB ($231.73) [VPIP: 27.3% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 34]
BB ($209.35) [VPIP: 35.7% | PFR: 28.6% | AGG: 44.4% | Hands: 28]
UTG ($230.56) [VPIP: 16.7% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 100% | Hands: 12]
HJ ($211) [VPIP: 29.7% | PFR: 24.3% | AGG: 42.9% | Hands: 37]
CO ($198.66) [VPIP: 13.5% | PFR: 10.8% | AGG: 66.7% | Hands: 37]

Dealt to Hero: J A

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $5, HERO Raises To $15, SB Folds, BB Folds, CO Raises To $35, HERO Raises To $70, CO Folds

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HERO wins: $73


by DooDooPoker k

Good example of when to make massive deviations from a solver. This is an over 34bb mistake in a solver but calling is a complete punt.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 2(BB)
HERO ($278.38) [VPIP: 29% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.6% | Flop Agg: 41.6% | Turn Agg: 33.9% | River Agg: 37.1% | 3Bet: 11.5% | 4Bet: 14.2% | Hands: 320050]
SB ($208.26)

Hey Doodoo, just looking through some of your stuff, this from a february. There is this hand and the one where guy had boat over boat and jammed river w 88 vs your 66 and you folded. In each of these hands im wondering why you didnt raise turn when villain bet? Are you just trying to be in a river spot where you have all the data and try to get them to make a bigger mistake bc its easier for them to make the right decision when you raise?


by newguyhere k

Leaking DMs is petty.

Perhaps he thought it'd be okay with the amount of MDA information you include in a lot of your posts.

It's tough to pass any further judgement without knowing more. Did you immediately block him after telling him you wouldn't give it to him for free, or did you tell him what you'd charge and allow him a chance to respond?

He'd look a whole lot worse if you said, "Sorry I can't just give it away for free. My prices are..." If he comes back and still says he wants it for fre

this


by YanasaurBBQ k

Hey Doodoo, just looking through some of your stuff, this from a february. There is this hand and the one where guy had boat over boat and jammed river w 88 vs your 66 and you folded. In each of these hands im wondering why you didnt raise turn when villain bet? Are you just trying to be in a river spot where you have all the data and try to get them to make a bigger mistake bc its easier for them to make the right decision when you raise?

Yeah so basically they over barrel in this spot (if I knew he had AK I ship turn) so I want to let them continue with all their gutshots/oesd and there are very few rivers that are bad for me. There is also an overfold OTT if I jam and I don't want him to fold.


DooDoo to whole spot is so embarrassing for you - unbelievable.

Every single CFP or coach you had (and there were a lot) you started quarrels with.
I dont think you are a nice person.

Can you please explain why you do not come along with anybody?

Why are you trying to discredit Brokenstars altough he gave you money to play poker when you were broke? You did not answer his pm‘s for a long time - looks like you wanted to steal this money from him? He first had to write in 2+2 before you wrote an answer to him.
Why do you call him arrogant instead of publicly apologizing to him?

I think you lost all the reputation in this forum… - hard to believe that somebody will book such a coach


As long as he is teaching the things he said he would teach as a coach, I don't know why he would lose his reputation with most people here. He was always very generous with the free information he gave. Childish behavior on both parts, but they seemed to settle down the issue by going in opposite directions, and ddp even stated, with other words, he might have overreacted a bit. His CFP dealings, yes, I have a negative view on what he did, and if I ever found one myself, he would definitely be blacklisted. He doesn't seem to care though, you have his 2p2, you have his real name in the discord print, you can always ask BS who ddp is, if any other CFP hires him, it's their own damn fault whatever ensues afterwards.


Doodoo you seem like a sharp poker player and definitely +EV. Don't do stupid **** like sports betting/gambling, chasing losses, that is the #1 killer of a career. You can self exclude from casino on ignition and acr. I've lost probably 10k lifetime playing blackjack, I thought I was too smart for it but I wasn't. I haven't played table games in 8 months and am infinitely better and happier. Seriously seems like you have some **** going on and maybe working through that first would be important. I'm not criticizing or attacking, but saying this as a fellow poker player and degenerate.


by wereallgonnamakeit k

Doodoo you seem like a sharp poker player and definitely +EV. Don't do stupid **** like sports betting/gambling, chasing losses, that is the #1 killer of a career. You can self exclude from casino on ignition and acr. I've lost probably 10k lifetime playing blackjack, I thought I was too smart for it but I wasn't. I haven't played table games in 8 months and am infinitely better and happier. Seriously seems like you have some **** going on and maybe working through that first would be important.

Thx man.

I stopped sports betting as I'm down like 30k lifetime. I just play poker and do crypto investments now. I basically always learn the hard way, when I was terrible at poker I lost a ton of money playing live and had to start back at 10nl online to relearn everything to get where I am now.


When you sit down at a table, it automatically becomes your table. All fish turn into fish food

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 2(BB)
HERO ($197) [VPIP: 29% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.6% | Flop Agg: 41.5% | Turn Agg: 33.9% | River Agg: 37.2% | 3Bet: 11.5% | 4Bet: 14.1% | Hands: 326515]
SB ($231.88) [VPIP: 40% | PFR: 26.7% | AGG: 25% | Hands: 16]
BB ($312.09) [VPIP: 35.7% | PFR: 21.4% | AGG: 42.1% | Flop Agg: 28.6% | Turn Agg: 50% | River Agg: 50% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 26.7% | Hands: 29]

Dealt to Hero: Q K

HERO Raises To $5, SB Folds, BB Calls $3

Hero SPR on Flop: [17.45 effective]
Flop ($11): 5 9 2
BB Bets $6 (Rem. Stack: $301.09), HERO Calls $6 (Rem. Stack: $186)

Turn ($23): 5 9 2 7
BB Checks, HERO Bets $10.93 (Rem. Stack: $175.07), BB Calls $10.93 (Rem. Stack: $290.16)

River ($44.86): 5 9 2 7 8
BB Bets $20 (Rem. Stack: $270.16), HERO Raises To $70 (Rem. Stack: $105.07), BB Folds

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HERO wins: $82.86


Such a good line vs fish


I think if you play on Iggy/ACR the number one priority is to identify bot play.

Here are a few bot lines.

1. They will minraise rivers.

Example:

BU is a bot here.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 2(BB)
HERO ($240.71) [VPIP: 29% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.6% | Hands: 326599]
CO ($215.60) [VPIP: 40% | PFR: 24% | AGG: 7.7% | Hands: 26]
BTN ($208.95) [VPIP: 44.7% | PFR: 36.8% | AGG: 61.1% | Flop Agg: 77.8% | Turn Agg: 40% | River Agg: 50% | 3Bet: 12.5% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 41]
SB ($291.18) [VPIP: 22.5% | PFR: 17.5% | AGG: 57.1% | Hands: 40]
BB ($368.67) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 15.6% | AGG: 37.5% | Flop Agg: 25% | Turn Agg: 50% | River Agg: 50% | 3Bet: 7.1% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 20% | Hands: 32]

Dealt to Hero: 9 T

HERO Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To $5, SB Folds, BB Calls $3

Flop ($11): 6 8 4
BB Checks, BTN Checks

Turn ($11): 6 8 4 5
BB Bets $3.50 (Rem. Stack: $360.17), BTN Calls $3.50 (Rem. Stack: $200.45)

River ($18): 6 8 4 5 K
BB Bets $17.10 (Rem. Stack: $343.07), BTN Raises To $36 (Rem. Stack: $164.45), BB Calls $18.90 (Rem. Stack: $324.17)

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BTN shows: J 9
BB shows: 7 A

BB wins: $87

2. They will OB flops when they should never use OB as a sizing.

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NL Holdem 2(BB)
HERO ($207) [VPIP: 29% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.6% | Flop Agg: 41.5% | 3Bet: 11.5% | 4Bet: 14.1% | Cold Call: 9.3% | Hands: 326599]
UTG ($369.27) [VPIP: 26.1% | PFR: 21.7% | AGG: 40% | Flop Agg: 50% | 3Bet: 11.8% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 47]
HJ ($200) [VPIP: 14.6% | PFR: 12.2% | AGG: 42.9% | Hands: 41]
CO ($189) [VPIP: 11.1% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 9]
BTN ($200.20) [VPIP: 35.6% | PFR: 28.9% | AGG: 54.5% | Hands: 47]
SB ($207) [VPIP: 21.7% | PFR: 13% | AGG: 25% | Hands: 23]

Dealt to Hero: 3 4

UTG Raises To $6, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO Calls $4

Hero SPR on Flop: [15.46 effective]
Flop ($13): 9 J A
HERO Checks, UTG Bets $14 (Rem. Stack: $349.27), HERO Raises To $44.26 (Rem. Stack: $156.74), UTG Folds

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HERO wins: $38.95

3. Some bots play a much higher VPIP/PFR style than GTO and are overly aggressive when you are capped. Turn is a fold in GTO but a snap call here since he is a bot. Notice his flop sizing is too large for this board texture = bot tell.

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NL Holdem 2(BB)
HERO ($240.71) [VPIP: 29% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.6% | Flop Agg: 41.5% | Turn Agg: 33.9% | River Agg: 37.2% | 3Bet: 11.5% | 4Bet: 14.1% | Cold Call: 9.3% | Hands: 326599]
HJ ($215.60) [VPIP: 40% | PFR: 24% | AGG: 7.7% | Hands: 26]
CO ($164.45) [VPIP: 44.7% | PFR: 36.8% | AGG: 61.1% | Flop Agg: 77.8% | Turn Agg: 40% | River Agg: 50% | 3Bet: 12.5% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 41]
BTN ($290.18) [VPIP: 22.5% | PFR: 17.5% | AGG: 57.1% | Hands: 40]
SB ($411.17) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 15.6% | AGG: 37.5% | Hands: 32]

Dealt to Hero: 6 A

HJ Folds, CO Raises To $6, BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO Calls $4

Hero SPR on Flop: [12.19 effective]
Flop ($13): 5 7 5
HERO Checks, CO Bets $8 (Rem. Stack: $150.45), HERO Calls $8 (Rem. Stack: $226.71)

Turn ($29): 5 7 5 5
HERO Checks, CO Bets $40 (Rem. Stack: $110.45), HERO Calls $40 (Rem. Stack: $186.71)

River ($109): 5 7 5 5 T
HERO Checks, CO Checks

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HERO wins: $106

CO show's Q8


Hand 1: Not sure if this proves anything. Fish have been min raising rivers before bots were ever a thing.

Hand 2/3: I've talked about this before and agree that players (bots?) that use large sizes or OBs when they shouldn't tend to be overbluffing.

Hand 3: How would you differentiate someone being overly aggressive against a capped range as a bot or just someone from a CFP stable or aggro fish?


by newguyhere k

Hand 1: Not sure if this proves anything. Fish have been min raising rivers before bots were ever a thing.

Hand 2/3: I've talked about this before and agree that players (bots?) that use large sizes or OBs when they shouldn't tend to be overbluffing.

Hand 3: How would you differentiate someone being overly aggressive against a capped range as a bot or just someone from a CFP stable or aggro fish?

Hand 1. Bots will min raise vs polar sizing's at a higher frequency than fish, fish tend to raise more vs smaller sizing's.

Hand 2. If you see them OB flop you can deduce a lot of other tendencies further on in the game tree.

Hand 3. As someone who has been in both BTS and Metagame there are very clear differences between these 3 player profiles: an aggro guy from a CFP, an aggro fish, an aggro bot.

Aggro guy from CFP won't open 3x in CO/won't open Q8o/won't use that flop sizing

Aggro fish won't OB turn very often

Aggro bot will do all 3 of these things


cool thx


by Brokenstars k

Yeah, I did ask this. I should have been more tactful as I see it certainly rubbed you the wrong way. I did not expect you to give it to me. I recently got some hh and a new SSD and was going to do some MDA analysis on my own and mostly wanted to know how your stable had configured/structured/organized the data. That being said I also did not expect you to post here in under 24 hours and instantly block me without further communication.

I mean.... this isn't really your data, it is data that some

I don't even care that much since I play PLO and this whole thread is beyond me with all the MDA and stuff. But it is honestly extraordinary how you can somehow spin this into something offending you when you act like a spoiled brat asking for a huge effort for FREE? honest I feel like telling you to s**t the f*** up and stop ruining a thread for the many that benefit greatly from OP posting interesting HHs and thoughts.

Unbelievable anyone would agree with you arrogant attitude and I fully understand OP publishes your arrogant way of asking for something that OP has put a ton of effort/money into producing for his own benefit and not YOURS.


by Iskovic k

I don't even care that much since I play PLO and this whole thread is beyond me with all the MDA and stuff. But it is honestly extraordinary how you can somehow spin this into something offending you when you act like a spoiled brat asking for a huge effort for FREE? honest I feel like telling you to s**t the f*** up and stop ruining a thread for the many that benefit greatly from OP posting interesting HHs and thoughts.

Unbelievable anyone would agree with you arrogant attitude and I fully under

Ummm he staked the guy then he ghosted him for some time and he just got back his principle. Not sure how that's fair when he dumped it on sports betting like an idiot.


Important spot that is very counter intuitive.

BTNvsBB

Flop comes KT2r. BB X, BU cbet 1/3 BB call.

Turn is To, X/X

River is 2o.

BB has 2 sizing's here, a smallish sizing and 3x pot sizing.

A hand like QTo/JTo basically never slowplays as BB here and mixes between 3x pot and smallish.

Now look at ATo, it rarely bets here as BB even though it is stronger than QT/JT.

Because we hold an Ace in our hand we make it more likely BTN will bet in the BXB node so we check river to go for the river XR.

River sim:


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