Ukraine-Russia War Take 2

Ukraine-Russia War Take 2

Here is what the preliminary take on the Ukraine thread disappearing is:

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08 February 2024 at 05:19 PM
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by campfirewest

Even if the election was fair Putin still would have won.

After killing jailing and threatening all reasonable opponents for 20 years probably yes


How did the Zelenskyy election go? Oh wait.


by Victor

ya things in the 90s were so democratic in Russia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russi...

Yeltsin literally bombed the parliament.

and, no election interference.

'remember the 1996 elections (warts and all) and recall that Russians are perfectly capable of competitive politics, when it's available to them.'

You've missed the point.

by campfirewest

Even if the election was fair Putin still would have won.

"Fair" after the prerigging?

by Victor

How did the Zelenskyy election go? Oh wait.

He won 73% of the vote in a fair and free election, making him president of Ukraine.


he canceled the last election


False, Zelenskyy did not cancel elections. As you've been told multiple times now, elections are not held when the country is under martial law.


one neat trick for democracy without elections


Are you suggesting that Zelenskyy declares martial law and the parliament approves it not because of the invasion and existential threat that Ukraine faces, but so that Zelenskyy can remain in power without an election?


well ya


great documentary on russia since ww2 on netflix rn


PW, here is your EW resistant drone, pretty wild. I don't think it's really viable for any kind of suicide drone, but could be useful for a reusable recon drone:


what does Banderyk mean?


by Bluegrassplayer

Are you suggesting that Zelenskyy declares martial law and the parliament approves it not because of the invasion and existential threat that Ukraine faces, but so that Zelenskyy can remain in power without an election?

by Victor

well ya

cant fault the russian propaganda ministry. nothing else works in that country, but my god they do a fine job


It was not the response I was expecting.


from the latest WOTR episode on youtube: the two biggest motivators for getting "volunteers" for Russia's assault groups are execution/threat of execution, and also wives/girlfriends saying they need more money.


by Bluegrassplayer

from the latest WOTR episode on youtube: the two biggest motivators for getting "volunteers" for Russia's assault groups are execution/threat of execution, and also wives/girlfriends saying they need more money.

What is WOTR?
Are you talking about how Russia recruits troops are Ukraine as I have heard bad stories on both sides

Also many Russian women love the death benefits they receive


Rulers in power do what they can to stay in power. Putin, trump, Zelensky, bibi, etc


lozen: War on the Rocks. They are pretty much the best source for info on Ukraine.

This was not about recruitment, but about how troops are "motivated" to go on assaults with large casualty ratios. The two biggest motivators are threat of execution and girlfriends/wives telling their partner they could use the extra money.


putin took office three decades ago and has subsequently won all his 'elections' by about fifty percentage points over the closest 'rival'

zelensky took office four years ago and suspended elections due to the fact that there are 300,000 enemy combatants roaming around in his country

=/=


Where the idea that Zelenskyy wants to stay in power, and is even faking the need for martial law (or he orchestrated the entire invasion), came from is beyond me. He ran on only wanting one term. He said he will not run again after the war. There's no reason not to believe him.

It's silly.


by Bluegrassplayer

Where the idea that Zelenskyy wants to stay in power, and is even faking the need for martial law (or he orchestrated the entire invasion), came from is beyond me. He ran on only wanting one term. He said he will not run again after the war. There's no reason not to believe him.

It's silly.

that idea came from you, just now. did anyone else say that?

You do realize he can need martial law and also do things to keep himself in power

are you arguing that Zelensky isnt trying to keep himself in power? yes or no


by Bluegrassplayer

Where the idea that Zelenskyy wants to stay in power, and is even faking the need for martial law (or he orchestrated the entire invasion), came from is beyond me.

im pretty sure i know where it came from


by Bluegrassplayer

Are you suggesting that Zelenskyy declares martial law and the parliament approves it not because of the invasion and existential threat that Ukraine faces, but so that Zelenskyy can remain in power without an election?

by Victor

well ya

by PointlessWords

Rulers in power do what they can to stay in power. Putin, trump, Zelensky, bibi, etc

by BOIDS

im pretty sure i know where it came from

lol


Please post where anyone besides BGp said Z was faking the need

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It's been quoted twice on this page, and the original is on this page as well.


yea none of those say "faking the need"

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