Israel/Palestine thread

just so depraved

Nice Pallywood photo

crisis actors

Lay down your burdens by the riverside, take a deep breath and go for jihad.

We discussed the same literal question in this thread a while ago!

And of course the proper answer cannot include any cap on civilian casualties, otherwise Hamas would simply put up that amount of meat shields and secure it's survival.

Btw it's curious how obsessed with Palestinian civilians lives you are lately given the very low amount of deaths in the last two months.

Even Hamas official sources say we are a little over one thousand per month this year (from approx 28k total to 32k now).

And as we know hamas includes all Hamas members, affiliates and enablers in that count.

We can't know how many of the approx 4k Palestinians killed this year were members of Hamas, or feeded, clothed, serviced the cars of Hamas, repaired and maintained tunnels and so on.

Because I hope we can agree that everyone helping Hamas is a legit non civilian target as well as official Hamas members are.

do you know how the Gaza Health Ministry counts deaths? if you knew, then you would understand why the numbers are not representative of reality.

Palestinians would not allow themselves to be made into human shields by themselves on that scale

Ah so you would accept a number like 200k as a cap, which wouldn't be reached anyway?

Gazans are calling into the rubble piles, trying to get responses from buried family members.

7,000 Gazans are missing (November figure), most are buried.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/23/world...

liberals Dems just love war

remnants of guy ran over by tanks with a fully bandaged leg. so they forced the wounded out of the hospital and then executed him by running him over. I will spare you the picture altho I shouldnt.

videos of fires set to houses around Al Shifa. there were families in these houses ofc.

ofc another flour massacre, as there is every day at the roundabout.

and ofc, example 45243253 of every accusation is a confession.

"flour massacre" is people not learning how to behave when food gets distributed.

They are so used to Hamas sequestering all of it and allocating it on the basis of loyalty and personal gains for Hamas leadership, the idea of someone giving it for free to actually everyone is alien to them so they rush and fight and become violent because they don't literally believe it can be true.

But ofc that's Israel fault I guess

Here is the full Tweet, no mention of Israel, UNRWA, or even Gaza. It does mention Ukraine though, a war which you constantly state the propaganda narratives that Putin uses to justify while you also constantly attack Ukraine and dehumanize Ukrainians as they defend themselves against the invasion and attempted genocide:

Pretty dishonest to hijack the tweet for causes that aren't even mentioned.

nothing dishonest. read better.

one may have thought that he voted against a bill bc he opposed defunding UNRWA while funding a genocidal regime that also restricted the Palestinian's rights to use International courts to seek justice. bc you know, that was what the bill entailed.

but no, he voted against it bc it did not perpetuate enough war for himself.

It's dishonest. Read better.

"Aren't even mentioned", not "aren't conceivable that someone could misconstrue".

One may think whatever they want, but the person they are assigning beliefs to also explicitly stated their reasons. If he opposed defunding UNRWA then the quote where he says that is the reason that he voted against the funding bill should be used, and not this one.

I have no idea what your last sentence means. Are you trying to suggest this person is anti war?

ofc the guy wanted to defund UNRWA. and he wanted to support the genocide by sending more bombs.

the only reason he didnt vote for the bill was bc it did not include enough war in it. he wanted more war and death via funding Ukraine to continue another disgusting Western war.

Let me get this straight. You posted a tweet from a woman claiming that this man was the lone Democrat who didn't vote for the bill because he did NOT want to want to "fund Israel's genocide, defund UNRWA" with your own caption of "liberals Dems just love war".

But what you were actually saying is that he DID want "to defund UNRWA. and he wanted to support the genocide by sending more bombs."

In other words, the exact opposite of what was claimed in the tweet.

I guess I just interpret the tweet differently than you. I think its pretty clear what she is saying.

to me she is saying, the only democrat who voted against the bill to fund Israel's war (ie genocide) did not vote against it bc he opposed Israel's actions (ie genocide), but rather he voted against it bc it did not provide for more war, ie more money to Ukraine.

and heres his tweet where he says exactly that.

Yeah I think I misread this one. Wow. I am always shocked by the stances these people take.

you and me both brother

The bullshit just isn't working for the IDF anymore, I've never seen anything quite like it.